This study will look at what the Word of God says about the rapture (catching up of the saints), as too many people speculate about the meaning of verses, while the Bible is very straight-forward about the sequence of events.
The 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, when Messiah confirmed the Everlasting New Covenant with His blood sacrifice. He and His disciples offered the Gospel to the Jews for 7 years, after which it was also offered to the Gentiles. So it can’t be a future 7-year tribulation period, which invalidates the concept of a pre-tribulation rapture. To read a Bible study that proves this, click on
70 Weeks Of Daniel Deception
In Matthew 28:18-20, Messiah said He would be with us unto the end of the world, not just until a pre-trib rapture.
“And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”
In John 6:40, 44 and 54, Messiah repeatedly tells us that He will raise up the dead at the last day.
“And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
“Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”
1 Thessalonians 5:2 says that the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night to those who are in spiritual darkness.
“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.”
Then verses 4-6 say “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”
If we are abiding in Messiah’s light, then we won’t be caught by surprise.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 says that the dead shall rise at the last trumpet
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed”
The followers of Messiah who are alive when Jesus returns, will be changed AFTER the dead rise, at the END.
Revelation 11:15, “And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 tells us the rapture won’t be secret and that we’ll be ‘caught up’ after the dead rise first.
“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (precede) them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
This is the same ‘not so secret’ event as Matthew 24:29-31, where the dead rise first, then the alive saints.
In John 16:33, Messiah told us we would have tribulation, “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”
Paul tells us in I Thessalonians 5:9, to be sober in waiting for the return of Messiah, but we will not face His wrath.
“But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for a helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.”
So the Bible is telling us that people in the end of time will go through tribulation and will face the beast system. At the end, the dead will rise and then the living elect will be caught up in the air to meet Messiah.
Then His wrath will be poured out on the Earth to judge those who have rejected Him.
Messiah will come for His bride on the Feast of the Trumpets.
God gave the Israelites seven feasts to celebrate, all which pointed to the promised Messiah. Messiah has fulfilled four of the feasts, such as when He died as the Passover lamb, in exact detail at the precise time.
The next feast to be fulfilled is the Feast of Trumpets, which represents Jesus return for His bride.
Knowing that Messiah is exact in His fulfillment of prophecy, and knowing that the Feast of Trumpets represents Jesus return for His bride, we know the context of Jesus return.
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed”
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
Is it not logical that Messiah will return during the Feast of Trumpets?
10 days after the Feast of Trumpets is the Feast of Atonement, when Christ will judge His Church.
15 days after the Feast of Trumpets is the Feast of Tabernacles, when we will celebrate the wedding feast.
So you can clearly see that the judgment and wedding feast occur shortly after Messiah returns to gather His bride, not seven years beforehand.
To read more about the seven feasts and how they point to Jesus second coming, click on No One Knows The Day And Hour Of Jesus Return
The “Marriage Supper of the Lamb” is at the end, not 7 years before Messiah returns on His white horse.
Revelation 19:8-9 says that the bride is not ready until Revelation 19 and we are at the END of tribulation!
“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.”
Then two sentences later in verse 11 we find the “Second Coming of Messiah”,
“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.”
As you can see, anyone who teaches that believers will be raptured, and will be at the wedding feast with Jesus, while everyone on Earth is enduring seven years of tribulation, is teaching contrary to the Word of Elohim.
Followers of Messiah have faced tribulation for the last 2,000 years, as it is part of our purification and testing.
Messiah’s disciples were persecuted and killed. Stephen the Apostle was stoned. Paul was beaten, stoned and persecuted. Millions of Christians have died at the hands of the Jews, the Romans and the Roman Catholic Church. Today, many Christians in other countries are being persecuted and killed for their faith.
Why would Elohim treat us any differently? Do we think that we are better than those who died for their faith?
Messiah told us in Revelation 3:14-16 that we are the Church of Laodicea, and He said that we are wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked. And because we are ‘lukewarm’, He will spit us out of His mouth, unless we repent of our ways.
Do you understand how effective Satan’s pre-tribulation rapture myth has been?
It has caused us to not prepare for hardship, as the financial system collapses.
You need to be prepared, so that during times of tribulation, you can protect yourself and your family. If you don’t, then every day will be spent trying to survive, instead of being spent helping those around you. When the world is suffering in the last days, people will be more desperate than ever for the Good News of Messiah .
It has caused us to not be prepared spiritually and unable to discern the truth about Satan’s end time plans.
You need to be alert, so that you’re not deceived by false prophets who tell you that the rapture has happened, or that the Messiah has come. You need to be strong with the full armor of Elohim protecting you.
Satan will make the world desperate for a savior who can provide for them and give them peace.
With the pending financial collapse; worldwide shortages of food and water; increases in wars and violence; and then the appearance of a false messiah… the world will be ripe to accept the mark of the beast.
Revelation 12:12,17 says “woe to the ones dwelling on the Earth, because the devil came down to you having great anger, knowing that he has a little time!”, “he is enraged and will make war with those having the testimony of Christ.”
You need be prepared to give an answer for your faith, so that you don’t submit to the beast system and deny Messiah.
Antichrist is not just one man in the end, but a system that has been working since the time of Messiah.
Satan’s deception has caused Christians to look only to an end-time antichrist, instead of looking to all the institutions that have been antichrist for thousands of years, and are working against Christians, such as Babylonian Judaism and the Jesuits who control the Roman Catholic Church.
To read a Bible study about the ‘Little Horn of Daniel’ and the ‘Beast of Revelation’, click on The Beasts of Daniel and Revelation
Truth be told, nowhere in the Bible does it say there will be a 7 year tribulation
If you doubt that, ask your pastor where in the Bible it says that there will be a 7-year tribulation.
There will be great tribulation to be sure, but the pre-tribulation rapture myth is built around the concept of a 7-year tribulation, a futuristic 70th week of Daniel, that is not supported by the Bible.
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I believe in the 7 year pre trib
Jesus started to minister in 27 A.D. which was a Jubilee year.
The next Jubilee is coming up in 2027.
That is exactly 2000 years and should be the start of the millennium
Assuming that the aviv or ripening of the first Barley is before the new moon on September 22nd 2019 then Passover will be from April 9th to 15th 2020.
I believe this will be the time of the first translation or rapture sorry I can’t tell you which day exactly.
With regards to the 70 weeks in Danial ,I often find more than one meaning in the bible
God Bless
Thank you for your comment Ron 🙂 I’ve never heard that explanation before. I believe that the Bible is straight-forward and only gives one fulfillment in regard to specific prophecies. God bless! Keep learning and growing! David
great work! keep it up.
just something small…its not Jesus who comes as a thief in the night.it is the DAY OF THE LORD that occurs/comes as a thief in the night.
correct?
Thank you for your comment Colin 🙂 Yes, it is the Day of the Lord that comes as a thief in the night. And when you reference a Bible that uses the proper names, the title ‘Lord’ does not represent Jesus, it represents the Father. I have updated the study. Thanks! David
For you yourselves know very well that the day of יהוה (Yahuah, the Father) comes as a thief in the night.
Wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord and there is no ignorance in that. First off I only need the Holy Spirit to help me understand Gods word.
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV)
Secondly be careful who you call ignorant, because God will be the judge of who is ignorant when he brings his judgement. Jesus is the only way to escape what is coming and he will separate the goats from the sheep.
Pray that you may be worthy that you can escape what is about to come.
Learn how to read! Know your audience, and subject…
David thank you for your response. I’m sorry I just kind of skimmed through your blog, but now I understand your position as a preterist. Meaning you believe prophesy has already been fulfilled as it pertains to the things Christ revealed would occur before his return. I can somewhat see how some of these things could be perceived as already occurred, but the events of Revelation are going to be far worse than anything we have currently experienced.
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. (Revelation 14:9-10 NIV)
And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. (Revelation 13:13-14 NIV)
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, (Revelation 13:13, 16 NIV)
And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. (Revelation 11:3, 5 NIV)
These verses are not in chronological order but are meant as examples of things that have not occurred and therefore make the idea that we are somehow currently going through tribulation a stretch to put it lightly.
I have difficulty in seeing how anyone can believe these two witnesses have come yet that will prophesy 3.5 years as clearly stated by scripture. I also don’t understand how anyone could confuse the coming antichrist with anyone of the past. Just look at what his abilities will be in Revelation.
Your position is somehow that believers have been decieved into believing in a rapture event before Gods wrath, but it Is very easy for me to discredit your position that we are somehow already in this last seven years, which is clearly laid out in Revelation. No one will have any excuse when they bow down to Satan and the beast in the end.
He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:29-31, 36 NIV)
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Thank you for your comment Richard 🙂 I am not a Preterist who believes that Revelation was fulfilled during the first century. I am a Historicist who believes, as did all of the Protestant Reformers and the great theologians of the 16th-20th centuries, that Revelation has been in the process of being fulfilled since it was written.
I don’t know what studies you have read, so I will simply provide links as they provide my rebuttal of your explanations. Here is the Two Witnesses of Revelation study http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/two-witnesses-of-revelation-bible-study/
I have never said that we are in the supposed seven year tribulation. The whole concept is a deception from the Jesuits of Rome, which is based on a futuristic 70th week of Daniel. I have 12 studies that prove that the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, from 27-34 A.D., when the Messiah and His disciples offered the New Covenant to the Jews, before it was offered to the Gentile nations. Because it’s already fulfilled, it invalidates the concept of a future 7-year tribulation period, which is never mentioned in Revelation. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-70th-week-of-daniel/
Revelation mentions a period of 1,260 days, which was fulfilled when the Roman Catholic Church reigned from 538-1798 A.D. (1 day = 1 year in this prophecy). So there is no justification for a 3 1/2 year time of Great Tribulation in the end times.
Lest you point to Daniel 12 and the 1,290 and 1,335 days, that was fulfilled from 66-70 A.D., when 1.1 million Jews died from famine, pestilence, infighting, crucifixion and by the Roman Sword. It was a time of Great Tribulation indeed! http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/
Your explanations have proven nothing, except for your ignorance of the fulfillment of prophecy.
David
Your position that pre-trib rapture is a myth overlooks many verses that point to Jesus removing the saints before the 7 year tribulation. I will keep this brief, however; because I don’t want to create anymore confusion over this matter. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. (Matthew 24:36-42 NIV)
Anyone who has read Revelation knows that events are going to unfold during the tribulation period that are going to be evidence of Gods wrath. Considering Matthew makes it obvious that people will be going about their business as usual just as they were before Noahs flood makes it highly unlikely that this is referring to a time during the tribulation when it will be a period of suffering unlike anything anyone can imagine. Jesus commanded us to watch and be ready. If you are wise and abiding in the Holy Spirit then you can see this world getting ready for the beast of revelation. Noah was removed before the flood because he was counted worthy, Lot was also removed before Gods wrath because he was counted worthy.
“Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:34-36 NIV)
Thank you for your comment Richard 🙂 Here’s the main problem with your explanation. It’s based on a supposed future 70th week of Daniel, the 7-year tribulation. But the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, from 27-34 A.D., when our Messiah and His disciples offered the New Covenant to the Jews for 7 years, before it was offered to the gentile nations.
Because it has already been fulfilled, there will be no 7-year tribulation period, which invalidates the pre and mid trib positions. You can read this Bible study which proves that it was about Jesus Christ offering the New Covenant, not an end times antichrist making a peace agreement. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/70-weeks-of-daniel-covenant-deception/
As for Revelation, most of it has been fulfilled during the last 2,000 years. You can read this fulfillment study to see where we are at on the Revelation fulfillment timeline. http://christianitybeliefs.org/revelation-timeline/
The enemy has deceived the end time church about prophecy fulfillment, so they will be caught off-guard by what happens. Messiah said to be wise and alert, as to not be deceived and to be prepared for His return.
I pray that you will pursue this studies with diligence in the power of the Holy Spirit. Time is short my friend!
David
Have you notice in Luke 21 that the same people that He told to pray for escape are the very same ones He told would be persecuted and some would die? What we are being told to watch and pray for is an escape from carousing, drunkeness, the anxieties of life, and other temptations. This is not an escape from, but an escape out of these things.
Show me a verse that tells me the Church will be removed prior to a seven year tribulation. For that matter show me a verse that tells me there will be a seven year tribulation.
My Bible says that the saints will be worn down for a time, times and half a time, the Holy City (the New Jerusalem) will be trampled for 1260 days, and the beast will reign for 42 months.
Luke 21 is about the desolation of the temple, city and Jews, in 70 A.D.; which is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:26, that the people of the prince (Titus) would desolate the temple and city.
Messiah told His followers to look for the Abomination of Desolation, which Luke 21:20 tells us was the Roman army surrounding the city.
The first division of the Roman army surrounded Jerusalem in 66 A.D., and they were ready to lay siege to the city, when for no reason (other than the hand of God) they left.
This allowed the followers of Messiah to escape to the mountains of Pella, and the Jewish historian Josephus records not none of them were killed by the Roman army.
The Jews stayed, as they felt emboldened when the Romans left; but when the next division of the Roman army returned, it lead to 1.1 million Jews dying from famine, pestilence, infighting, suicide, crucifixion and by the Roman sword.
Daniel 12 describes this time, know as the time of Jacob’s Trouble, which occurred during the 1,335 days, from 66-70 A.D. Here is a study that shows the fulfillment http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/
The 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, form 27-34 A.D.; when Messiah and His disciples confirmed that it was Messiah who was the Passover Lamb that ratified the Abrahamic Covenant with His blood. Here is a study to proves the covenant is Messiah’s covenant, not the covenant of an end times antichrist http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/70-weeks-of-daniel-covenant-deception/
Because it’s already been fulfilled, there is no 7-year tribulation period, thus no pre-trib rapture.
The saints were worn down during the 1,260 year reign of the Popes of Rome, the sea beast of Revelation 13, from 538-1798 A.D.; when during the Dark Ages and Inquisition, they killed over 50 million saints. Here’s a study about the 1,260 years of Great Tribulation http://christianitybeliefs.org/revelation-timeline-decoded/the-1260-year-reign-of-the-popes-of-the-roman-catholic-church/
Your day-year theory doesn’t work. How do the 42 months and the time, times and half a time translate into 1260 years using the day-year theory?
The capture of pope Pius VI in 1798 was a significant event, but it in no way marked the end of papal power. The papacy recovered quickly and continued to exert its influence, retaining its territories in central Italy until 1870. It appears this date was chosen simply because no other single event presented as a better candidate.
And the events of 538 don’t actually show that the Papacy gained power at this time. This date was chosen purely to fit in with 1798, and they were both chosen because aome identified the beast as the papacy, and the 1,260 days as 1,260 years. The record of history does not show any clearly delineated period of 1,260 years during which the papacy reigned supreme – the papacy gained prominence well before 538, but didn’t acquire the territories referred to above until 756. And its decline also, was a relatively long and gradual process.
The truth is, every postion has some truth in it. Preterism, Futurism and Historicism are all partially true.
And you are correct. Daniel and Jesus both tell us that there will be a time of trouble unlike any other just prior to His coming, but nowhere does it say there will be a seven year “Tribulation.”
My day-year theory doesn’t fit with your interpretation. The Popes lost civil power in 1798 A.D., but they did not lose their ecclesiastical power. The Jesuits of Rome took control of the Vatican in the late 18th century. The Jesuits are the earth beast of Revelation 13, who rose to power after the 1,260 years. The Jesuits caused the Vatican to receive civil power again in 1929 A.D., and so they created an image of the beast. The Jesuit General, the Black Pope, controls the Vatican and the White Pope. And he is using them to gather the world under his power.
Here is a study on the sea beast of Revelation 13, the Popes of Rome. http://christianitybeliefs.org/revelation-timeline-decoded/the-antichrist-sea-beast-of-revelation-13-is-the-popes-of-the-roman-catholic-church/
Here is a study on the earth beast of Revelation 13, the Jesuit Generals. http://christianitybeliefs.org/revelation-timeline-decoded/the-earth-beast-of-revelation-13-jesuit-generals-of-rome/
When is the wedding of the Lamb because if the tribulation period already was fulfilled then why are we still here and not enjoying the wedding up in Heaven because many verses like Ephesians 5:25-27, Ephesians5:24, 2 Corinthians 11:2, and many more verses say that Jesus will get married to the Church his Bride so why is the church is here on Earth when the Church should be celebrating in Heaven?
Thank you for your comment David 🙂 The wedding of the Lamb is represented by the Feast of Tabernacles, which is yet to be fulfilled. Messiah fulfilled the four spring feasts and when He returns He will fulfill the three fall feasts. That has not happened yet, which is why we are still here. You can read a study on the Holy Feast Days @ http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-holy-feast-days-of-god-deception/ Blessings to you, David
Hello all I wanted to say was read Daniel 9:24-27 and then tell me if what you are teaching to people is right or wrong because in Daniel 9:27 it says ” And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” So why are you saying that Jesus and his disciples offered the Gospel to the Jews for 7 years, after which it was also offered to the Gentiles. So it can’t be a future 7-year tribulation period, which invalidates the concept of a pre-tribulation rapture. Then what is the point of John writing Revalation when Revalation is the future 7-year tribulation period. Also please study the Jewish wedding customs so you can understand why the pre-tribulation rapture is true and not a false doctrine made up it in 1830 like some people say and they make up there own false doctrines like mid-tribulation rapture and that there is no rapture. I hope that God Blesses you and you have a Blessed week
Thank you for your comment Jared 🙂 There are 12 studies on this website which prove that the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, so it is not a future 7-year tribulation period. That is a deception from the Jesuits of Rome to deflect blame away from the Popes of Rome, who the Protestant Reformers rightly identified as the Little Horn of Daniel, the Son of Perdition of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the antichrist beast of Revelation.
John does not describe a 7-year tribulation period in Revelation. He describes a period of 1,260 days, which was fulfilled when the Roman Catholic Church reigned for 1,260 years from 538-1798 A.D.
Try reading the home page and the Revelation Seals, Trumpets and Bowls study, and that may help clarify things for you. Keep learning and growing in the faith! David
Great teaching, but I am Really interested in knowing more about the effect that believing in the pre-tribulation rapture will have on professing christians in the last days. Thanks!
Thank you for your comment Joys 🙂 I think that the evil ones may stage a fake rapture scenario, where they cause some people to disappear, and use the media, which they control, to say that the rapture occurred, which would cause professing christians to think that they were left behind, which could cause them to falter in their faith, and accept the New World Order. Follow the Lamb wherever He goes and when He returns, you will know it. 🙂
David,
You are correct in that the Adversary will stage a fake rapture and for all the reasons you listed.
This will happen before the Blessed Hope, The Day of Christ and the catching away of the saints or commonly called the Rapture.
Christians don’t need to be “libel scholars” or made “wise by graduating from “Theological Cemetery’s”, or “Masters of Eschatology”, to understand the Word of God.
The Holy Spirit is the teacher for Christians through the Word of God, through a humble and meek heart and a sincere desire for the Truth.
God wants all His children to know when the Day of Christ is or Blessed Hope.These terms, Collectively, referencing the Rapture are only found in the uncorrupted King James Bible AV 1611
This Major error of denying the pretrib rapture:
Gives No Hope and has No Blessing of Hope, and is no Day of (light)Christ.
(but in fact is darkness and despair of experiencing the tribulation or the Day of the Wrath of God!!the day of the Lord)
The spirit of the Adversary is behind these ” no rapture til the end” errors.
“for we MUST persevere til the end, to prove our OWN worthiness to EARN are Own salvation”.
This is Non-Sense.
This will only be true for those Left Behind.
“Lordship Salvation”, denial of the pre-trib Rapture and self righteousness..Always go hand in hand.Those left behind will only be saved by faith Plus Works(denying the Antichrist).
We saved Christians today are Saved By GRACE through faith and Not Of Works!Lest ANY MAN……should BOAST.This IS the age of GRACE, Which-Will-End-Soon.
(i already know you deny the Word and don’t believe in “dispensations”)
“Christians” who believe in this deception are LOOKING FORWARD to the Tribulation!What nonsense!
More and more Christians are not believing in the Blessed Hope more and more.What reason would the god of this world system have for orchestrating this?
What you said above is the reason.
Paul thoroughly explained the Rapture through the Word of God.NOT- Mathew, Mark Luke or John.This was one of the secrets or mystery’s that the Lord God Almighty revealed Only…to Paul…for us, through the Word of God, KJB AV 1611.
All the corrupted “modern” (Westcott and Hort) bible versions, NIV, ESV, NASB, NKJB, Amplified, etc, etc, add too, delete, and change The Word of God and The Day of Christ.It is Completely different than the “day of the lord”.
Finally the Rapture is perfectly explained by Paul in, Corithians, Titus and 1 and 2 Thessalonians.Especially 2 Thess 2:1-12,
And God tells us “When” and “How”..in these verses, but Only in His Holy Spirit inspired, preserved and true Word-the KJB AV 1611.It is Not the “Great Apostasy” that proceeds it(more Westcott and Hort Luciferiansm) but a Literal “falling away”….
“Spiritualizing, Allegorizing and Adding to the Word of God is VERY serious.
Rev 22:18-19!
Hmmmmm..”Falling” and “Away”…wait, how bout verses 6 and7?
Hmmm…nothing about the “Holy Spirit” falling away or being “”RESTRAINED””…hmmmm…nothing about the “body of Christ” falling away….hmmmm
The Word-God explains itself/Himself, sometimes Simply…..for that which He wants His children to know.
The Devil doesn’t.
“yea hath God said????”
Has God said?Really?All theses Luciferian “errors”, reveal that too many “Christians” don’t really believe that God said As It Is Written.
You and growing millions of Christians believe this Deception.
I speak and tell you the Truth
in Jesus mighty name
Amen.
Thank you for your comment! 🙂 Please help me understand. Do you base your explanation of a pre-trib rapture around being removed before the 7-year tribulation period?
Its interesting that you should say that David, about a fake rapture, I have been seeing world leaders point to a September 2015 event e.g. a french government official said that we had 500 days before a “climatic abyss”(the countdown leads to September 23), many movies have been portraying a September event like left behind, the pope will give an address in the US on September 24. Do you think that this could be what you mentioned here? and why the September date?
Also, I understand that there is an RFID implant chip being tested, do you think this might be used as the mark of the beast?
Kiiru.
Thank you for your comment Kiiru 🙂 Many things point to major things happening from Sept – Dec, 2015. The evil ones are having people like Jonathan Cahn proclaim that the Schemita ends in September, which he proclaims will result in a financial crisis. And I do believe that the Jesuits will cause a worldwide financial collapse. And then they may blame it on the God of the Bible, so that people hate God and Christians.
The Pope may make some prophetic proclamation or ultimatum before Congress and/or the U.N., then when the economy collapses, he will look like a prophet, and will offer a solution, their New World Order.
The truth is that the Jesuits control the world’s financial system via their city-state of the City of London. They will cause the collapse, to cause the world to cry out for solutions. Maybe this is all part of God’s judgment on us. Maybe it’s just the evil ones doing the work of Satan.
Add in a potential Israeli/Palestinian ‘peace agreement’ and Christians will be looking for the pre-trib rapture, as they have been conditioned to believe those false narratives. And maybe the evil ones stage a fake rapture to cause Christians to lose heart.
It will be an interesting fall, that is for sure.
I believe that the mark of the beast is revering/worshiping (forehead) the beast, the Pope of Rome; and obeying (hand) his commands. They may use a tattoo or RFID chip for those who agree to their commands, so that people can buy and sell.
Sadly, most Christians don’t understand that the antichrist beast it is the Popes of Rome, so they very may well take the Pope up on his offer to provide access to food, water, etc.
Keep learning and growing in the faith!
David
Thanks David for your response. I have to ask, now that a pre-trib. rapture according to prophecy is inaccurate, how do we explain to the world about the rapture taking place at the end of the age? when the bride is caught up, does judgement take place immediately after or after the millennial reign? Secondly, a protestant church in my area are taking the pastors on a trip to Rome to visit the vatican among other places. If you were to talk to them, what would you tell them about the vatican? I ask because in my research I have found that there are many pagan symbols and rituals there and I worry about what they will learn there. Thank you.
Kiiru
Thank you for your comment Kiiru 🙂 People need to understand that most of the prophecies in the Bible have already been fulfilled during the last 2,000 years. And they need to understand the proper context of our Messiah’s return, during the fall feast days, which represents His catching up of the saints, His judgment and the Wedding Supper. Here is a study that talks about that http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/no-one-knows-the-day-and-hour-of-jesus-return/
Most Protestant Pastors think that the Catholic Church is just another Christian denomination, and they fail to understand that the Popes of Rome are the antichrist beast of Revelation. They should have nothing to do with the Harlot Church, nor should they travel to a place that is filled with sorcery.
Blessings to you,
David
One more question,(kindly be patient with me) the bible records that God will send Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the Lord Malachi 4:5 and the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon into blood before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord. Does the great and terrible day of the Lord refer to the judgement day? Matthew 17:12 Jesus implied that Elijah had come through John the baptist. Please explain. Thanks again Sir.
Kiiru.
Thank you for your comment Kiiru 🙂 As you noted, Elijah already came in the form of John the Baptist. The terrible day of judgment was referring to the judgment of the Jews, which occurred in 70 A.D., when 1.1 million Jews died in and around Jerusalem, from famine, pestilence, infighting, crucifixion and by the Roman sword. Here is a study of Daniel 12 which shows the explanation and timeline of the fulfillment of the time of Jacob’s Trouble http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/
After many years of idolatry and disobedience, resulting in the Jews being taken captive by the Babylonians for 70 years, they were given one last chance to accept their promised Messiah by faith. In Daniel 9, they were told exactly when the Messiah would appear. But when Messiah appeared in 27 A.D., the Jewish leaders and most Jews rejected Him, and delivered Him up to be killed, because they did not know the time of His visitation.
The result is that the Roman army was sent against them to desolate them. The Jews wanted their Messiah to overthrow the Romans who oppressed them, but the irony is that Messiah used the Romans to overthrown the Jewish leadership system and temple. The Sun and moon being darkened is symbolic of the leadership of the Jews being darkened. Messiah removed their power.
Keep learning and growing!
David
Hi Joys,
I will let the Apostle Peter answer your question:
2Pet.3 [3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[4] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
It is one more tool to mock believers. And those who are deceived are much easier targets than those who know the scriptures.
I can’t help but think that the Messiah was cut off at the end of 69 total weeks or 483 (Jewish) years from the time the decree went forth… according to Daniel 9:25-26. Jesus was NOT cut off at 69.5 weeks or 486.5 years. Therefore the premise to all of this website’s debunking of a future 70th week can’t be correct, if I’m understanding what this website is teaching. Also, from what I have read, it appears to me that this website favors the writing of the book of Revelation pre-70AD rather than late 90’s AD. If this is correct then the two opposing beliefs concerning a future 70th week will most likely never meet.
Thank you for your comment Wendy 🙂 The text says that Messiah was cut off AFTER the 69 weeks, so that tells us that He was cut off in the 70th week, during the last 7 years. The text says that He would cause the need for the sacrifice to cease after 3 1/2 years, which was fulfilled when after 3 1/2 years of ministry, the Messiah was crucified as the spotless Lamb of God, ending the need for the temple sacrifices. So that takes us halfway through the last 7 years of the 70th week of Daniel.
His disciples continued to preach the Gospel to the Jews only for the next 3 1/2 years, and many accepted Jesus as their Messiah. The 7 years ended after the Jewish leaders killed Stephen, marking their final rejection of Jesus as their Messiah. Then Acts documents that from then on the Gospel was also preached to the Gentiles.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever said that John was written pre-70 A.D If you can find that reference, please let me know.
The 70th week of Daniel is about Jesus Christ and His New Covenant, not an end-times antichrist and an Israel peace agreement.
The 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled in 70 weeks. There is no 1987+ year time gap between the 69th and 70th week.
There are many studies on this website that prove that it was fulfilled. Keep learning and growing.
Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
Thanks for this website! I am a greek orthodox Christian and our Church had always thaught Like what you write here. Ecumenism is the pan-heresy and all heresies stem from false theology, misunderstanding and distorting facets of our faith, trinity, saints, church, priesthood, sacraments etc. for example the false teaching of visible and invisible church would mean that Christs body is split and needs unification to be whole, bible teaches contrary. Invisible church heresy stems from nestorians-Augustine-Luther. In bible church is always visible, localised and one in faith and praxis with other true local churches
David,
I wouldn’t normally write to any blog, but I feel compelled to write you. Latley I’ve been hearing alot from the post trib folks like yourself and pastors like David Lankford, and also internet radio personalities like Sheila Zilinsky and others… I’ve noticed that these people (Christians, I’m not judging anyones salvation here) that preach against a prewrath rapture are very condesending and feel the need to attack other christians and pastors that teach saving faith. You attack John MacArthur and other dipensational pastors. They are not apostate because you don’t agree with their homoletics. Now, Joel Osteen is a pided piper leading his congregation straight to hell. And the Vatican has been corrupt for centuries. Don’t you think you should focus on false teachers and not on secondary matters. I read your myth evidence and it leaves me with more questions than answers. I am a pre-wrath believer. I didn’t say pre-tribulation. And I’m not ashamed of it. I think your wrong in your assesment of the Word. I read it and was amazed at your conclusion. I need more evidence than what you presented. Here are a few problems I have with a post Great Tribulation rapture. What’s the point if it is at the end? There is a difference between “you will have tribulation” and the Great tribulation. First, if the church is the body of Christ, I thought the Father poured out his wrath on Christ’s body, only once. The believers during the Great tribulation are never called the church. not once. They are called Tribulation Saints. Seperate from the church. Converted tribulation Jews aren’t called the church, either. Christ judges the churches at the begining of the Book of the Revalation. Correct. The judgement seat of Christ is for individual saints, and not the church. If He spat out the lukewarm church, where are they spat out to? Hell? Outside, with the dogs and sorscerers. They are like the ten virgins without oil. They miss the party because they wern’t prepared to leave. In Hebrew weddings of old, the groom comes unexpectedley for his bride, then takes his bride back to the fathers house where he’s been adding on to it. Then the bride and groom celebrate with their friends and family for 7 days. Paul says repeatedly to comfort one another with his words in Thesselonians. How is it comforting to go through the Great tribulation. Jesus said Himself of the abomination that makes desolate to RUN for your lives, and don’t look back. How comforting is that? He didn’t say I’ll be with you, so you should just stay where you are and get killed for Me. He’s say run!!!! He says that, to believers. Second, What groom would beat his ‘wife to be’ then say “hey wanna get hitched now?” Third, if our Lord went to prepare a place in His Fathers House, who’s going there? Only saints who have died. That means the bride doesn’t get to go to the Fathers House. That would make Jesus a liar. Is the New Jerusalem the same as the Fathers House? Maybe it is, maybe it’s not. You can’t say for certain. How can someone recieve you, when they come to your house. Christ doesn’t say recieve Me when I get there. He does the recieving. The ‘RE’ in ‘recieving’ implies going backwards. (Return, rewind, redo, reverse.) Back where? The Fathers House not Jerusalem.
The object of God’s wrath is on Sin, Satan, and the world system. Not His Own. Is God going to pour out judgement on His own Holy Spirit? We are His Spirit’s vessel. How many righteous men died in the Great Flood? I’ll tell you. NONE. Enoch was taken before the Flood. The Flood came when Methusela died. Lot was rescued before destruction came. When Abraham ask God would you spare Sod/Gom for 100 righteous? You know the story. Lot wasn’t told just persevere until its over. The Lord had to send for him. first!
Lastley, when Satan is cast out of Heaven because there was no place left for him, and he knows his time is short. Could it be the arrival of the church in Heaven that starts the war. Now, Satan would then be ‘on the clock’ at that point know he’d know it. If we are here for the Great tribulation and you saw the abomination that makes desolate. You would then know 3 1/2 years to the day when the Lord will return. Invalidating Jesus’ statement that you wouldn’t know the day or hour. Jesus’ second coming will be seen by all. A thief in the night doesn’t come with pomp and circumstance and millions of friends. Why doesn’t He say “Behold, come like a surprise attack of a great General or king, or warrior. A thief is stealthy and takes what he’s after and disappears back to where he came from, before the landlord knows whats happened. Like one of your other commenters, when your paradigm is challenged, will you try to rip me to shreds with some biting words? Or feel sorry for me, that I’ve learned from apostates, unlike the enlightened ones here.
Either way, I don’t believe it is ‘Salvation’ issue. If you think you know the Truth, then preach it, with gentleness and humility. We’ll have Eternity to argue who was right. God bless
Thank you for your comment Pete 🙂 The yellow box on the top of this page leads to a Bible study on the fulfillment on the 70th week of Daniel, which proves that the concept of the future 7-year tribulation is invalid.
Because it has already been fulfilled, it invalidates the pre-trib and mid-trib positions, which are based on a future 70th week of Daniel / 7-year tribulation period. You can read the first study here http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/the-70th-week-of-daniel/
The covenant of the 70th week of Daniel is Jesus New Covenant, which was offered to the Jews for 7 years. Some accepted Jesus as their Messiah, but most of them rejected Him. The everlasting covenant then was also preached to the Gentile nations. Here is a study that proves that the covenant is Jesus New Covenant, and not an end times antichrist Israeli peace agreement. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/70-weeks-of-daniel-covenant-deception/
Teachers like John MacArthur proclaim that the 70th week of Daniel is yet future, and so they deceive people.
Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
Peter,
First, no where in the Bible does the term “Tribulation Saints” exist. Saints, whether they live now, or during the time of great tribulation, are those SANCTIFIED in Christ. There are only TWO categories of people, those “in Adam (born of the flesh only, and dead in sin) and those “in Christ” (those born of God, alive in the spirit). There is no salvation outside of being in Christ, part of His body, the Church, and that includes all saints through all time. When God’s wrath was poured out on Jesus on the cross, the old creation in us died. When Jesus rose from dead, all those who are of the faith of Abraham were marked in Him, and raised up, seated with Him in heavenly places (Ephesians). The Flood of Noah represents baptism that saves us, according to Peter. The Ark is the Church. It has three levels. The lower level symbolizes the body, and corresponds to the Outer Court of the Temple. The middle level of the Ark symbolizes the soul, and corresponds to the Holy Place in the Temple. The upper level of the Ark symbolizes the spirit, and with its window opened to Heaven, corresponds to the Most Holy Place, where we enter into God’s presence. The dove sent out into the earth represents the Spirit, the same Spirit that descended upon Jesus at His baptism. The Ark is covered with “pitch,” a word related to covering, or atonement. The Flood story also corresponds to the Exodus of Israel. While Noah, his family, and clean and unclean animals (the same animal which Peter saw raised and lowered in a white sheet, that symbolize the nations), entered into the Ark, so the Israelites entered into their homes to partake of the Passover (the death of Christ). They entered into the Ark for seven days, just as the Israelites journeyed to the Sea of Reed for seven day, during Unleavened Bread. After seven days, Noah and all in the Ark (those “in Christ”) passed safely through the wrath of God, while those in Adam died. Even so, Israel was baptized into the Sea, passing through the wrath of God which destroyed Pharaoh and his armies. What this tells us is that ONLY those in the Ark, or in the Temple are saved from God’s wrath. If the so-called “Tribulation Saints” (a term not found in the Bible) are not the Body of Christ, they cannot survive God’s wrath. In addition, God’s wrath is even now being revealed from heaven to those who suppress the truth by their disobedience. Revelation is merely the consummation, or finishing, or filling up to the full, of God’s wrath. God can pour out His wrath on sinners now, while we are still on earth. We are safe from God’s wrath, not being being taken to Heaven, but by being in Christ.
There is also no “The Great Tribulation” found in the Bible.
Second, the Father’s House is NOT Heaven, it is the CHURCH. In Ephesians, Paul writes, “In Him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a Holy Temple in the Lord. And in Him, you too are being built together to become a dwelling place in which God lives by His Spirit.” In other words, Jesus was going away to prepared a place for us WITHIN HIS BODY, the Temple, which is where He and the Father would make their home. Jesus has already come back and taken us to be with Him. He sent His Spirit and raises us up, seating us in heavenly places in him. Where He is, there we are also. “But you know Him, for He lives in you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans. I will come to you…The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them…Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.” In other words, the place Jesus is preparing for us is in His Body, the Temple, as Living Stones. Each time a person believes, they are place in Him and become a dwelling for God. As for the ancient Jewish wedding scenario, it doesn’t exist. It was fabricated by PreTribulationist by piecing together various comments by Jewish writers, and it was been embellished over the years. There is no Jewish writing that states, “I go and prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place, I will come back…” That is the reason there are never any references cited in regarded to this teaching. References don’t exist.
Third, no, the object of God’s wrath is on those who have touched the apple of Hs eye, His Bride, the Church. (The Bride IS the Church, the Body of Christ, just as Eve was part of Adam, “one of his bone, flesh of his flesh.” We are taken out of Him and united with Him. And the two become one flesh.) The Church was always experienced persecution and tribulation. Read the New Testament, and it is a major them. That tribulation will continue, and grow worse until the end when God says “enough,” and pours out His wrath on the tribulators. Jesus said, if the time of great tribulation was not cut short, no of the elect would survive. Why? Because they would have all been martyred. Therefore, the “great tribulation” is directed toward the elect (the Church), while God’s wrath is directed toward unbelievers.
Finally, NOWHERE in the Bible does it say we will be surprised by the resurrection/rapture. It is those in darkness that will be surprised. Not to mention, a seven year Tribulation is not even mentioned or taught in the Bible (There is no mention of “tribulation” in Daniel 9).
p.s PreTribbers like to use Enoch and Lot and proof of a PreTrib Rapture. First, if Enoch represents the rapture of the Church, where is the rising of the dead in Christ, which happens first. Where is the voice of an archangel? And if Enoch represents the Church which is raptured prior to the Flood, how can the Ark represent the Church (which I have proven above)? As for Lot, he in no way represents a raptured Church. Looking at the big picture, Abraham represents the faithful Church who has chosen to make his home at Bethel, the “house of God,” while Lot represents a worldly Christian who has made his home in the world. He offered his daughters to be raped by the men of Sodom. He hesitates to leave Sodom, and is finally dragged by the two angels (who correspond to the Two Witnesses in Revelation) out of the city. Instead of fleeing to the Mountain, as instructed by the two angels, he flees in fear to a cave where he himself is raped by his two daughters. He has built his house using hay, wood and stubble. If he is saved, he is saved as one barely escaping the flames (I Corinthians 3:12). His wife is not.
As for the thief, you are mistaken. In ancient times, a thief was not “stealthy.” He broke into the house, bound the owner of the house, and ransacked the house, taking all he wanted. It was no secret robbery.
“For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” Matthew 24:21
“And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Revelation 7:14
I am Christian San Lucas, from Ecuador, and a Jesus Christ believer from a christian Non denomination church
I have read some of your articles and all them are really interesting, they have strengthened my beliefs, and they all coincide with all my beliefs and researches as well
I want to thank God for your ministry, I love your work from the bottom of my heart. Please consider to have a similar web page in spanish.
I will really appreciate if you send to my e-mail addres your articles and news about the deceptions and news of the end of times
Thank you for your comment Christian 🙂 You made my day! I do the research and post the prophecy studies for people like you, who are led by the Spirit of Truth, who have eyes to see and ears to hear. I’ll keep in mind the need for the studies in Spanish, and will let you know about new pages. Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David