Who is the TRUE Israel? Who is the BOGUS Israel?

What does the Word of God say about who is the true Israel?

Is it a country in the Middle East?

Or is it a group of people who believe in God by faith?

Check out this video for the answer.

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6 thoughts on “Who is the TRUE Israel? Who is the BOGUS Israel?”

  1. My thoughts on how to interpret Israel. Messiah is cornerstone,he fulfills in Matt. All scriptures, fulfills law and prophets, at end of Matt. He fulfills Israel. 2 Cor. 1:20 and sends out 12 Apostles too Nations. Jn. 1:31 He came for a Messianically renewed Israel. Luke 1:31-33 shows he reigns as Messiah son of David. Also Jerm. 31:31 and Heb. 8:8 and 8:10 shows work of Messiah reunited ISRAEL AND JUDAH. MESSIAH ALONE IS THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE, MESSIAH ALONE ISFAITHFULL, MESSIAH ALONE REPRESENTS ISRAEL!! Your thoughts!

  2. We all must have faith in Jesus Christ, and in Him alone and no one else according to the Scriptures. He alone is to be Lord and God, and Saviour, and all things to us. We must abide in Him and in His Words…all Jews and Gentiles.
    But let us not forget: Paul opens what we know as chapter 11 of Romans with this rhetorical question…Has God cast off His people?…NO! for I am also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. He leaves the reader in no doubt that He is talking about being a natural Jew. God has not cast off that people group. He says that God will turn away iniquity from Jacob and all Israel (natural) will be saved Rom 11:26
    …that even Paul said that the Gentiles who received Christ Jesus by faith in Him are cut out of the wild olive tree and are grafted into the natural olive tree, and that we Gentiles should not boast over the natural tree…for if God can cut off the natural branches, fear Him lest He cut you off to. For He is no respector of persons. (from Romans 11).
    …our Lord is the Root and the stock of that natural olive tree…He is called in the last Book, known in Hewaven as ‘The Lion of the tribe of Judah’ who alone can open the ‘scroll’ – book and loose the seven seals (Rev 5:5).
    …let us not forget what God Yehovah, said to and through Jeremiah (31:35-37) to Israel to comfort those who trust in Him of that house,in the midst of God’s severity upon them, that as long as the ordinances of sun, moon and stars, remain to give light on the earth; and as long as the heavens cannot be measured or the earth and its foundations be thoroughly investigated by man, then His covenant with the house and seed of Israel, in spite of all their evils done against Him, to be a nation before Him, will not fail. As Paul said, the gifts and the callings of God are without repentance (Rom 11:29), and Paul made this statement with regard to the house of Israel (12 tribes).
    …or let us not forget in Ezekile God comforts natural Israel by saying that He will take the House of Israel (10 tribes) and “they shall be one in My hand” with the house of Judah (Benjamin remained with Judah); that they shall be one kingdom and not two, and He will gather them from all the nations where He had scattered them to, for their evils, and they shall dwelll on the mountains of Israel again (Eze 37:15-28), eventually in peace. They will as a united nation in the coming fiery trial at last surrender to their Messiah – the only true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, David, and all the faithful ones, though it be a remnant; and Jesus Christ shall reign over them and over all the earth for a thousand years in righteousness and peace, and justcie. (Rev 20:1-7)

    • We should help those of the natural branches to understand the truth of Jesus Christ and not boast against them as to cause them to harden their hearts even more. Some articles on this website doesn’t seem to Minister to the Jews but go against them and further keep them from the truth. I have friends in Israel and it seems to me that I should be helping them understand the truth. I must go with the Word of God and not boast against the natural branches.

      Luke 15:4 [AKJV/PCE])
      What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

      Rom 11:17-24 [AKJV/PCE])
      And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

      Does it really help telling Christians not to support Israel?

      Rom 1:16 AKJV/PCE
      For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

      Doesn’t it say here to the Jew first? I don’t think we should take select verses to go against Israel and the Whole counsel of God.

      Rom 2:8-10 AKJV/PCE
      But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

      Please adjust your articles so that they will inform all people of the truth and not have them turn further from the truth. I believe we should teach all people to have Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and to the Jew First, not condemn and play word games against them. Pretend that you are a Jew and then read your articles that go against the natural branches and see if it brings you closer to Christ or does it cause you to harden your heart even more.

      John 8:7 AKJV/PCE
      So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

      Use your knowledge for good and bring in all people and especially the Jew/natural branches to the New Testament and Faith in the Lord who died for all people.

      John 3:16-18 [AKJV/PCE])
      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

      • Thank you for your comment Randy 🙂 There is no boasting against Jews on this website, there is only truth. The Confirming the 70th week of Daniel study shows that the foundation of Jesus’ Church is built on Jews who accepted Him as their Messiah by His witness and the witness of His disciples.

        Sadly, Jews forbid one another to read the New Testament, and so they blind themselves from finding their Messiah. I pray for the Jews to seek truth and find salvation.

        The truth on this website can only help them find the truth. For it they understand that the six-sided star on their flag represents 666 and Satan, they seek answers. If they understand why rabbinical Torah Jews oppose the Zionists leaders of Israel, they seek answers. If they understand that DNA studies confirm that 95% of people who call themselves Jews, ARE NOT descendents of Abraham, they seek answers. If they understand that the Babylonian Talmud is anti-christ and anti-christian, then they seek answers. If they understand that the “Israel of God” is not based on a persons lineage, but rather on their faith in Christ, they seek answers.

        So my friend, I dare say that the things that may offend them, are the very things that may cause them to search for truth, so that they find their promised Messiah.

        Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised. “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”

        Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of God. “For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”

        Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of God. “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”

        Galatians 3:16 tells us that the seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ. “Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”

        Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Christ (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

        Changing the truth on this website would be like changing the Bible so that it does not offend the sinner.

        Jews need to know the truth, because too many people are not giving it to them. We must give the sinner the truth in love, and pray for their salvation.

        Grace and peace to you in Christ’s name,

    • Ian wrote: “They will as a united nation in the coming fiery trial at last surrender to their Messiah – the only true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, David, and all the faithful ones, though it be a remnant; and Jesus Christ shall reign over them and over all the earth for a thousand years in righteousness and peace, and justcie [sic]. (Rev 20:1-7).”

      First of all, “the Israel of God” is not now, nor ever shall be, an exclusively, ethnic nation that exists apart from the Body of Christ. Second, according to 1 John 4:3, the current, unbelieving, geopolitical entity which falsely calls itself, “Israel,” is a nation united under “the spirit of antichrist.” Third, the oncoming Day of the Lord will destroy _all_ unbelievers “…In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:8).” The “remnant,” therefore, belong to the Body of Christ Jesus, who is now “set down at the right hand of the Majesty on High (Hebrews 1:3)”, and they are NOW “seated together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus,” and are reigning with Him.

    • Ian, you’re mistaken when you say, …NO! for I am also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. He leaves the reader in no doubt that He is talking about being a natural Jew.

      Note that Paul called himself an Israelite, not a Jew. The term “Jew” is a shortened version of “Judahite” one designated as being of Judah; Judah was just ONE of the twelve Tribes of Israel. Israelites were the natural descendants of Abraham, and were never called Jews until the term was coined sometime I believe in the twentieth century, likely by a Zionist.

      Paul was addressing “boasting” against the natural branches and uniting the two houses of Israel in that passage and that’s true, but all scripture must interpret itself and agree with itself. All scripture has to be compared with itself in order to divide or interpret it correctly. Therefore, you have to compare that passage with the rest of scripture which clearly states that Israel consists of only those who accept Jesus or Yeshua as Savior and Lord. Thus, only those who are “in Christ” are Israelites. I 100% agree with David’s comments re this topic and on his (this) website, for David speaks the TRUTH about who true Israel is and is not. Anyone who has researched this topic thoroughly knows that David is telling the truth.


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