Please pray for the Holy Spirit to reveal truth to you, because many believers have been teaching false doctrine regarding the Jews and Israel.
If you read it based on your current understanding, then your previous programming will cause you to dismiss it as anti-semitic (which you will see, is not possible.)
What you will see is that most of the sources on this page are from Jewish people.
Be sure to read it all the way through, as it reveals who is a true Israelite, who is a true Jew, and who are the promised children of Elohim.
Consider the following facts to see why Christians should NOT support the state of Israel. Rather we should pray for Jews to come to know their Messiah, who has already come and ratified the everlasting covenant with His blood as the Passover Lamb.
The Jews are forbidden from possessing the land.
The Jews were removed from the promised land when Elohim sent the Babylonians and then the Romans, against them; because of their disobedience to Elohim, and their worship of foreign gods.
“And you, even of yourself, shall let go of your inheritance which I gave you. And I shall make you serve your enemies in a land which you have not known, for you have kindled a fire in My displeasure which burns forever.” Jeremiah 17:4
Many Torah Jews know this, which is why they protest against Zionist Israel, saying that it is illegitimate.
The Carnegie Endowment scholar and former editor of Foreign Policy, David Rothkopf says, “American Jews now have a duty to oppose Israel.”
For American Jews we have gone from a duty to support Israel to a duty to question Israel to a duty to oppose Israel.
How many abuses must take place? How many laws like this that claim racism as the national character and ethnic purity as its goal?… my point is that at some point my duty as an American (and as a Jew) is to actively oppose an ethno-nationalist regime that is systematically undermining the human rights of people within its borders & threatening peace and int’l values.
Israeli Professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan said in a speech, “Israel has reached an unimaginable peak of evil. And indeed many people all over the world find it hard to imagine that this is so.”
Who could imagine Jewish thugs, wearing black boots and helmets, armed with guns and batons, lashing dogs at small children and old people, or letting asylum seekers die of thirst in the desert and prisoners die of hunger strikes, punishing them and their families by sending them to confinement;
who would conceive of Jewish doctors driving a wounded man out of hospital and letting him die of thirst on a deserted road, who would think of Jewish soldiers breaking the neck of a young girl with a pink scarf for protesting against oppression.
Who could imagine the education of Jewish girls as consisting of beating up and harassing women and children, or a Jewish soldier girl receiving a badge of courage for murdering a Palestinian boy who went to fetch his birthday cake.
The only possible conclusion must be that Israeli evil has nothing to do with Judaism and that what is manifested in Israeli behavior is not Jewishness.
Rabbinical Torah Jews believe that the Zionist state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent true Jews or Judaism.
They believe that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name “Israel” and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!
They believe that contemporary sovereignty over the Holy Land belongs to those who have lived there for centuries, the Palestinians.
In this interview, Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, rabbi of Beis Medrash of Bayswater, explains the motives behind the claims of Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders to represent all Jews. He explains how Zionism, starting from Theodor Herzl, unilaterally arrogated to itself the right to speak in the name of world Jewry. Rabbi Shapiro explains the motives behind this and the danger it poses to the Jewish people.
In this interview, Rabbi Weiss is sharply critical in his remarks of the ideology of Zionism, who wrongly claim to represent Jews.
“Don’t let the Zionist media fool you. There are hundreds of thousands of fervently anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jews throughout the world, and we will never surrender to the Zionist idea…… Even secular Zionism has been a catastrophe for the Jewish people, but religious Zionism, combining two opposites into an unstable mixture, is leading the Jewish people to moral depravity. It is the complete inverse of the Jewish mission to be a light to the nations and bring peace to the world.” – True Torah Jews
You can read more about them at these websites:
True Torah Jews / Jews United Against Zionism
“The Arab nation never harmed the Jew until the advent of Jewish nationalism. The Zionists are heretics.” Rabbi Amram Blau 1894-1974
Since Torah Jews believe that the state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of Elohim, we should not support them either.
Dr. Hajo Meyer, Auschwitz survivor, said:
“If we want to stay really human beings, we must get up and call the Zionists what they are: Nazi criminals,” Meyer said. The hate of the Jews by the Germans “was less deeply rooted than the hate of the Palestinians by the Israeli Jews,” he observed. “The brainwashing of the Jewish Israeli populations is going on for over sixty years. They cannot see a Palestinian as a human being.”
“My message for the Palestinians is that they should not give up their fight,” he replied. “If they give up, they might lose their self-esteem with the ongoing humiliations by the Israeli Nazis. Fight with human means. It is justified to show to the Israeli Zionists that you are a force to reckon with. Fight with stones, with weapons. Yes, also with weapons. If you don’t fight, you lose your self-esteem and will not be respected by the Israelis.”
“If we Western democratic societies don’t support the Palestinians in their fight, we must feel ashamed if the Palestinians are annihilated. The US and the European Union must show their teeth,” he added.
Source: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/adri-nieuwhof/last-interview-auschwitz-survivor-urged-palestinians-not-give-their-fight
Dr. Chuck Baldwin, who ran for President of the United States, teaches why Zionist Israel is Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America.
Here is a short highlight that was taken from the two part sermons that are listed below.
Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America (Part 1)
Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America (Part 2)
Steven Ben-Denoon of Israeli News Live proclaims that top ISIS agents are Israel MOSSAD.
It is a shame to receive such news that Israeli Operatives are Leading ISIS in Mosul. This report comes after the fact that INL had once before reported from sources in the Israeli Military that had first shared this information with us.
Simon Elliot, who is no doubt Israeli MOSSAD, leads ISIS; with the alias Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Here is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi with John McCain.
Jews Step Forward to denounce the Zionist state of Israel
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Ten Myths About Israel
In Ten Myths About Israel, Israeli historian Ilan Pappe, who lives in exile in Britain, deals in this book with the myths of Zionism and exposes them as legends consisting of half-truths and fabrications of history. The Zionist narrative has only little to do with historical reality and truth.
The author points out that the expulsion of the Palestinians in 1947/48 was “ethnic cleansing.”
Likewise, the 1967 June war, which is also called the Sixth Day War, was not an act of self-defense of the “little David” against an overpowering “Goliath,” but an Israeli attack on which the Israeli security establishment has minutely prepared for years.
He explores the claim that Palestine was an empty land at the time of the Balfour Declaration, as well as the formation of Zionism and its role in the early decades of nation building.
DNA studies confirm that 97% of people who call themselves Jews, ARE NOT descendants of Abraham.
In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim (a Jew), a biologist at Hebrew University, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood.
The newest DNA research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) and his associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, has confirmed that:
The various groups of Jews in the world today DO NOT share a common genetic origin, and their genome is largely Khazar.
In fact, DNA research shows that the Palestinians actually have more Israelite blood than do the Khazar ‘Jews!’
These DNA research results should cause you to question everything you know about modern day Jews and the state of Israel.
Today they’re called Ashkenazi Jews, but they are a Jew by religion, not by blood. Most of them have Turkish-Mongol DNA.
The 1905 Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. XI p 533, stated that ‘probably 95% of the persons included in these estimates of Jewish populations are Ashkenazim‘.
The 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia documents that approximately 90% of the world’s so-called Jews are Khazar. A. N. Poliak, Professor of Medieval Jewish History at Tel Aviv University, says that the majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not Semitic. Immigration statistics indicate approximately 90% of the world’s so-called or self-styled ‘Jews’ living in 42 countries of the world are emigrants of Eastern European Khazar Jews.
Jesus words that Jerusalem will be “trampled by Gentiles” are confirmed, as 97% of the so-called Jews in Israel are Gentiles.
To read a more in-depth study about this, click on Jews Who Are Not Jews.
Since they’re not the descendents of Abraham, then they don’t have a right to
the land or to persecute the Palestinians, who they kicked off of the land.
And Christians should not support them.
Miko Peled, the son of the late Israeli general Mattityahu Peled, proclaims that the Zionist leaders of Israel are not Jewish.
Miko Peled is an Israeli writer and activist and the author of “The General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine.”
Mike has proclaimed that, “Israel is a racist criminal state that uses “security” as an excuse to murder innocent Palestinians and assassinate Palestinian political leaders, intellectuals and clergy. This has been going on for over six decades.”
Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament.
In Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded Christian scholar Michael Hoffman documents his provocative thesis that Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament.
It is the newly formalized belief system of the Pharisees, which arose in Babylon with the commitment of the formally oral traditions of the elders to writing, in the wake of the crucifixion of Israels Messiah and the destruction of the Temple.
Basing his findings on authoritative Judaic sources, Hoffman demonstrates that Judaism is a man-made religion of tradition and superstition, which represents the institutionalized nullification of Biblical law and doctrine.
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Quotes from Jews about Zionist Israel
Michael Selzer
“Zionism is a complex phenomenon, adequately understood by only a small percentage of its critics and by even a smaller percentage of its supporters.”
Sigmund Freud
“It would have seemed more sensible to me to establish a Jewish homeland on a less historically-burdened land. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives.”
Erich Fromm
“The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse.”
Albert Einstein
“I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain — especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight without a Jewish state.”
Paul Wellstone
“Palestinians must no longer be subjected to the daily, often humiliating reminders that they lack basic freedom and control over their lives.”
Henry Hurwitz editor of The Menorah Journal
“We rub our eyes, some of us who were life long Zionists, and we hang our heads in shame. No, we must speak with frankness: this present Israel is not what we dreamed and hoped for and worked for, we who followed Herzl or Ahad Ha’Am, Brandeis or Weizmann.”
Isaac Asimov
“As usual, I found myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist… I just think it is more important to be human and to have a human heritage; and I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind.”
I.F. Stone
“… Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist. Jews might fight elsewhere for their very security and existence — against principles and practices they find themselves defending in Israel.”
Nahum Goldmann
“When Zionism first appeared on the world scene most Jews opposed it and scoffed at it. Herzl was only supported by a small minority.”
American Jewish Council 1944
“Jewish nationalism tends to confuse our fellowman about our place and function in society and diverts our own attention from our historic role to live as a religious community wherever we may dwell.” .…the concept of a theocratic state is long past. It is an anachronism. The concept of a racial state “the Hitlerian concept” is repugnant to the civilized world, as witness the fearful global war in which we are involved.”
Immanuel Wallerstein
“What the Israeli governments do not realize is that neither Hamas nor Hizbullah need Israel. It is Israel that needs them, and needs them desperately. If Israel wants not to become a Crusader state that is in the end extinguished, it is only Hamas and Hizbullah that can guarantee the survival of Israel. It is only when Israel is able to come to terms with them, as the deeply-rooted spokespersons of Palestinian and Arab nationalism, that Israel can live in peace……. Both Palestinian and world public opinion is moving towards the one-state solution. And this is of course the end of the Zionist project. The three-element strategy of Israel is decomposing. The iron fist no longer succeeds, much as it didn’t for George Bush in Iraq…….And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not. Can Israel now switch to an alternative strategy, of negotiating with the militant representatives of the Arab Palestinians, as an integral constituent of the Middle East, and not as an outpost of Europe? It seems quite late for that, quite possibly too late.”
Richard Cohen
“The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake. It is an honest mistake, a well-intentioned mistake, a mistake for which no one is culpable, but the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself.”
Norman Finkelstein
“They used to say Palestinians fight like heroes, now they say heroes fight like Palestinians….People have to liberate themselves because liberation is not a single act. It’s a question of eternal vigilance…..Why should these Palestinians, who have lived in Jerusalem for hundreds of years, be evicted from their homes so that Jews from Brooklyn can live in them?”
Richard Falk
“I think that my life’s work in a sense has been associated with helping or identifying with those who are victims of injustice. If we look at the world today, there are many victims of injustice. But I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world. And symbolically, their struggle is one that engages people of conscience everywhere in the world in a manner that resembles the way the anti-apartheid movement worked effectively to undermine South Africa’s claims of sovereignty and legitimacy. And I hope that this small role that I play contributes to that kind of process on behalf of the Palestinian.”
Gabriel Kolko
“The result of the creation of a state called Israel was abysmal. Jews from Poland have nothing in common with Germans and neither has anything to do with those from the Arab world. It is nationality, not religion, that counts most. Jews in Israel, especially the Germans, largely ghettoized themselves by their place of origin during the first generation, when a militarized culture produced the mixed new breed called sabras — an essentially anti-intellectual personality far different from the one the early Zionists, who were mostly socialists who preached the nobility of labor, expected to emerge. The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state’s creation….The outcome is a small state with a military ethos that pervades all aspects of Israel’s culture, its politics and, above all, its response to the existence of Arabs in its midst and at its borders. From its inception, the ideology of the early Zionists — of Labor Zionism as well as the rightist Revisionism that Vladimir Jabotinsky produced — embodied a commitment to violence, erroneously called self-defense, and a virtual hysteria. As a transcendent idea, Zionism has no validity because the national differences between Jews are overwhelming.”
Murray Polner
“Back in the 1980s the major American Jewish welfare organization adopted as its fundraising slogan “We are One.” The implication was that American Jews were a united bloc. But we are not “one” and never have been. Ideologically, we are everything from anarchists to Zionists, working people to the gilded rich. Noam Chomsky is as Jewish as Irving Kristol, and Norman Finkelstein as Jewish as Alan Dershowitz. We are neither angels nor saints. And we are certainly not monolithic, despite perennial efforts to paint anyone critical of various aspects of Israeli policies as “self-hating” Jews.”
Tony Judt
“My own inclination, then, would be to focus elsewhere. If the Jews of Europe and North America took their distance from Israel (as many have begun to do), the assertion that Israel was “their” state would take on an absurd air. Over time, even Washington might come to see the futility of attaching American foreign policy to the delusions of one small Middle Eastern state. This, I believe, is the best thing that could possibly happen to Israel itself. It would be obliged to acknowledge its limits. It would have to make other friends, preferably among its neighbors.”
Henry Siegman, a former national director of the American Jewish Congress and of the Synagogue Council of America
“Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East’ to the only apartheid regime in the Western world. The inevitability of such a transformation has been held out not by “Israel bashers” but by the country’s own leaders.”
Uri Avnery
“What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our long-term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet. In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel.”
Joseph Glatzer
“The point of view I have in regards to Israel/Palestine is based on nothing more than having a conscience and knowing the difference between right and wrong…. Finding out that my Orange County Right-Wing Republican fetishized ideal of Israel wasn’t what I thought it was was truly earth-shattering for me. I couldn’t believe Israel wasn’t actually the defender of democracy in the Middle East as I was raised to believe …White phosphorous melting the faces off children, just because they were guilty of attending a UN school. Civilians waving white flags were shot; the UN warehouse of food aid for the victims was bombed and exploded by Israel…When I hear people attack Palestinians and deny their Nakba, I now take it personally. I feel it in my heart. It’s not just a statistic anymore…”
Rabbi Daniel Landes, Director of the Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies in Jerusalem
“We Religious Zionists Are in Deep Trouble. ‘Krazy Kookniks’ are now the cutting edge or logical extension of normative Religious Zionism, which today is overtly messianic, narrowly nationalistic, and in its Orthodoxy, essentially isolationist……The religious Zionist magic moment in Shabbat services is the prayer for the State of Israel – edging out the attention once given to the iconic Jewish prayer, the Shema – which describes Israel as “the first flowering of our deliverance.” Rather than hope, religious Zionism threatens to become, in the souls and actions of its adherents, a dangerous dogma of a deaf and dumb Impatient Messianism that talks to no one but knows just “what to do” to those who stand in its way, Arab or Jew.”
The Israeli army uses three internationally banned weapons in its military agression against the unarmed civilian population of Palestine.
Israel uses Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME). DIME weapons spread inert metal atoms that penetrate the human body and are difficult to get out of human tissue.
The second internationally banned weapon used by Israel is armor piercing bombs.
The third internationally banned weapon used by Israel is white phosphorous, which mixes with oxygen to form a transparent wax and causes fires and thick, white smoke. When the human body is exposed to white phosphorus, it burns the skin and flesh; only the bones remain.
The use of such banned weapons against humans is a flagrant violation of international law, especially the fourth Geneva convention.
Shulamit Aloni, former Minister in the Israeli government, says that using accusations of anti-semitism is a trick, which Zionists always use.
“Palestinians are fighting for their lives; Israel is fighting for the occupation.
That we notice there’s a way on only when Jews are murdered does not cancel out the fact that Palestinians are being killed all the time.The Palestinians are fighting for their life, in the full sense of the word.
We Israeli Jews are fighting for our privelege as a nation of masters, in the full ugliness of the term. We are doing everything in our power to make their lives unbearable.”
Amira Hass, Oct 07, 2015 – Haaretz
Their Babylonian Talmud is anti-christ and anti-christian.
The Ashkenazi Jewish leaders believe that their Babylonian Talmud supersedes the Bible in authority, and it says blasphemous things such as:
– “Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.” Gittin 57a
– “Jesus’ mother was a whore who played the harlot with carpenters.” Shabbath 104b
– “Christians are allied with hell, and Christianity is worse than incest.” Abodah Zara 17a
– “Just the Jews are humans, the non-Jews are no humans, but cattle.” Kerithuth 6b
Since their Babylonian Talmud is clearly anti-Christ and anti-Christian, Christians should not support them.
Their Egyptian Kaballah is based on witchcraft and astrology.
Gershow Scholem (1897-1982), Professor of Kabbalah at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said that the Kabbalah contains a great deal of black magic and sorcery, to invoke the powers of devils to disrupt the natural order.
Since their Egyptian Kaballah is based on witchcraft and astrology, which Elohim forbids, Christians should not support them.
The six-sided star on their flag represents 666 and Satan.
King David never used a star, so that’s just a lie to cover what it really represents.
Solomon fell away from Elohim and he built altars to and worshiped false gods, such as Ashtoreh and Remphran. He used the star in his seal as a symbol of protection.
It is the supreme symbol of satanic tyranny against Elohim and humanity, and has long been used in Egypt and Babylon magic, occultism, witchcraft and the casting of zodiacal horoscopes by astrologers.
The 6 points, 6 triangles, and the 6 sides of the hexagram = 666!
The hexagram is on the flag of Israeli, because the Satan-led, Jesuit-controlled, Rothchild family, owns and controls Israel. Read The Star Of David Deception
Since the hexagram on their flag represents 666 and Satan, it identifies Israel’s Ashkenazi Jewish leaders as antichrist, and Christians should not support them.
The Rothchild family finances and controls the state of Israel.
This Hasidic Jew tells you the truth about Zionist “Israel” which was created for the Jesuit Rothchild family.
Israel was created by the Jesuit Rothschilds as a nation-state to hide their money, and an opportunistic group – the Zionists – who would front for them.
The Jesuits use the powerful Israel military to control the Middle East.
The “regathering” of Israelites has already been fulfilled.
The “regathering” that so many teachers attribute to the modern state of Israel, was fulfilled BEFORE Jesus first coming.
Elohim said that the Israelites would be regathered, not just the Jews. The Jews are only 1/12th of the tribes of Israel, which descended from Jacob/Israel.
Jeremiah 31:31 says “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.”
The Jews (tribe of Judah) were released from their Babylonian captivity, and allowed to return to Jerusalem, to rebuild the city and the temple.
People from the other Israelite tribes (tribe of Israel) also returned and lived in Galilee, where Messiah found many of His disciples.
Messiah confirmed that the house of Israel had been regathered in Matthew 15:24, when He said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
In Hebrews 8:8-10, Paul confirmed that this prophecy had been fulfilled, as the New Covenant Gospel was preached to the House of Israel and the House of Judah, through Jesus and His disciples.
To read more about why there is no need for a regathering in the end times, click on Regathering Of The Jews Deception
Because the regathering of Israelites already happened before Jesus first coming, we should not look for another Elohim-ordained regathering. This confirms that the modern state of Israel is illegitimate, and Christians should not support it.
“Bless Israel, be blessed; curse Israel, be cursed” manipulates God’s Word.
The Word of Elohim says in Genesis 12, “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you ALL the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
False teachers wrongly insert the name “Israel” (the modern nation of Israel), in place of “you” (Abraham).
It DOES NOT say “Israel”, as there is no Israel. Abraham is NOT a physical Israelite or Jew, as they were descendants of his grandson, Jacob/Israel.
Elohim had just told Abraham to leave Ur and all his comforts, and Elohim was reassuring him that He will protect him, provide for him and bless him.
The name “Israel” represents people who have a spiritual covenant relationship with God by faith, like Abraham.
The angel wrestled with Jacob “spiritually” to help him come to the end of himself, his life of deception, and his living “out of the flesh“; and into a real relationship with Elohim, where he trusted Elohim to live through him.
The word “Israel” in the Bible DOES NOT mean the modern nation of Israel.
Israel represents a people who trust in Elohim by faith, not a place.
The name “Israel” has been hijacked by people who aren’t even descendants of Abraham, so Christians should not support them.
“God’s chosen people” are those who have a Covenant relationship with Him.
“Just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.” Galatians 3:6-9
It can’t be more clear!!! Abraham’s spiritual descendants, those who believe by faith in the atoning work of Yahusha/Jesus, are Elohim’s Chosen People, who have blessed the earth with the Gospel.
Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised.
“For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”
Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of Elohim.
“For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”
Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of Elohim.
“Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”
Galatians 3:16 tells us that Messiah is the seed of Abraham.
“Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Messiah (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Because Elohims’s promises are to His spiritual descendants, Christians should not support the unbelieving leaders of the state of Israel.
The Jews have been expelled from places 345 times since 100 A.D.
They were kicked out of countries for being deceitful, lying, ritual murder, ritual murder of a child, crucifying a child; killing, stealing and destroying. That is once every 5.56 years. Here is a list with sources.
So what reasons do you have to support the Jews and the state of Israel?
Do they thank Elohim for restoring them after 1,878 years of exile?
Do you hear Israel’s leaders mention the Elohim of the Bible?
Are they bearing fruit for Elohim ?
Is there any evidence to show why Christians should support them?
Friend, you’ve read all of the evidence.
It’s time to acknowledge that Christians have been greatly deceived by Satan.
Until you see this truth, you won’t be able to discern end times prophecy, because most of the false teaching are based around the creation of the modern state of Israel.
Why has the modern state of Israel been created and filled with Fake Jews?
The Jesuits of the Roman Catholic Church needed to take control of the Middle East, in order to be able to push Islamic countries into the New World Order.
If you haven’t read our study that identifies the Roman Catholic Church as the beast of Daniel and Revelation, click on The Beasts of Daniel and Revelation
They will use Jerusalem as their New World Order headquarters, as it’s the central place that ties in Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
After wars between America, Israel and Islamic countries; they will unite all religions into one in the name of peace, which will have the effect of making Christians (spiritual Israel) the enemies of the world.
Their modern state of Israel serves to deceive Christians about end-times prophecy, so they can’t discern the truth.
It has caused Christians in America to support Israel, regardless of their actions. We give them 3 Billion Dollars a year, provide military support and veto any action against them by other countries.
Satan used the Rothchild family to create the Zionist state of Israel.
The Ashkenazi Jew (Jesuit-controlled) Rothchild family coat of arms includes the hexagram, as they practice Babylonian Judaism and worship Satan.
They are ultra-wealthy because their banking schemes have stolen the wealth of the nations, including the U.S. via the Federal Reserve Bank (which they share private ownership).
They bought a great deal of property from the Turks and Arabs, to create early Jewish settlements in Palestine.
Then the Jesuits instigated WWII and the killing of Jews, to help justify the creation of the state of Israel.
To get support from the U.S., they bribed President Truman with 2 Million Dollars to approve the U.N. resolution.
They are the reason for the hexagram six-sided star on Israel’s flag, as it represents 666 and Satan. The Menorah has always represents the Jews of the Bible.
The Israeli Supreme Court building was funded and designed by the Rothchild family, and it features many Satanic, Illuminati symbols.
The most prominent symbol is the green pyramid with the all seeing eye on it, which represents Satan, the god of this earth. There is also many Illuminati symbols in the building, and an obelisk, which represents Sun worship, which ultimately is Satan worship.
The Israeli military attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967, killing 34 and injuring 174.
On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel, killing 34 Americans and wounding another 174.
The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died. For more information: http://www.gtr5.com/
The Israeli MOSSAD was complicit in the destruction of the towers on 9/11.
The false narrative about 19 hapless Muslims with box cutters causing three steel-framed buildings to fall on 9/11 is a lie. Steel-framed buildings do not collapse on top of themselves, at near free-fall speeds, and end up as a pulverized dust pile. They obviously were destroyed with explosives. Building 7 was not hit by a plane, yet it was caused to collapse six hours after the planes hit.
The link is to a study that gives many references about people who were involved that are Jewish. They are there because you need to see that the Israeli Mossad (and CIA) was behind the False Flag event.
http://thetruthfulone.com/911-truth/
Here is what Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu really thinks about Americans.
Don’t you see the cruel irony my friend?
They say that they are Elohim’s chosen people, but their leaders represent Satan.
They cry out about anti-Semitism, but they aren’t even Semites.
They get Zionist Christians to support them, but they hate Jesus and Christians.
And they are controlled by the Beast of the Roman Catholic Church, which will seek to kill all Christians in their New World Order.
Satan has deceived Christians about who is ‘Israel’ and who is a ‘Jew’, so that Christian Zionists are unknowingly playing a major role in supporting his diabolical plan for a one-world system, which he will control.
He’s DECEIVED ALMOST THE WHOLE WORLD into believing that they’re the “chosen people” returning to their “promised land”. But they are IMPOSTORS!
Anyone who believes that the ZIONIST STATE of Israel set up by this One World Conspiracy is the same as the NATION of ISRAEL referred to in Scriptures, IS MISERABLY DECEIVED the way Christ warned us in Scriptures that “MANY would be”.
ANY Christian preacher who actively teaches this FALSE DOCTRINE is also either miserably deceived or he is outright LYING, and may Elohim have mercy on him.
Elohim’s Word prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would persecute their enemies, especially the Christians.
But Elohim will have his revenge: “Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Behold I will make them to come and worship at thy feet and know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)
Boycott products from Israel
The Jesuit-Rothchild District of Columbia gives the Zionist state of Israel billions of Dollars every year, to fund their military system; and sticks Americans with the bill.
There’s not much we can do about that, but we can refuse to buy Israeli-made products, which can be identified by the number 729 at the start of the bar code.
Related Study: Jews Who Are Not Really Jews
I believe in double multiple prophecy. Seems to me amerika is mystery Babylon the great. She will destroy her heritage, poison her land and must have deep water ports. Etc. No other Babylonian modern whore fits every requirement as amerika does. The UN being the tower of babel and city NY Babylon wall street and builds great Chevy and ford chariots, who’s mother Babylon is england. Babylon the great is fallen (daughter) fallen (mother babylon england). also amerika sits on 7 mountains (continents).
Thank you for your comment Ken 🙂 In order for America to fulfill the prophecy of Mystery Babylon, it has to fulfill all of the description of it in Revelation 17. Care to show how it fulfills each verse, such as the study on this website does @ http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions ? Thanks, David
It a lot harder to con real greeks who know the truth
but the slavic mongols of macedonia were given the sun god and earth god flag
which were worshiped by the ancient greeks as they discovered the statue of apollo
the sun god in gazza
so the greek religion and flag has also been hijacked
beware of the fake jew assyrians
And if 666 is what you are refering to as anti-christ i think you need to step back and have a close look at satan’s plan through Islam.
Yes people have forgotten that Jerusalem is a holy mountain of Our Father. And Satan has brought arabs through Islam to try and Divide it. The enemy has always been close. The False Prophet and The Beast cannot be seperate. If the Star of David is the number 666 than we say satan has won. But thats not correct and doesn’t make sense.
Isis through its belief in allah have beheaded Christian children asked them to deny Jesus Christ and turn to allah. Could this form of Islam Reach all Nations? I believe so. But thats my opinion we never know. I dont believe Antichrist Will come from America But the Middle East. American citizens will not let such a Man lead them. And their will be a Mighty War. But can you see a Ruthless Leader being born out of Islam?
Their holy books teach that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God. This is against our Beliefs. Their Believers have Vowed to wipe out the Jewish Nation this is against our God cause only our Father can destroy Israel.
Thank you for your comment Gali 🙂 Scripture clearly tells us that the Roman Catholic Church is the Antichrist beast, the Little Horn of Daniel, and the office of the Papacy, the Son of Perdition. The Roman Catholic Church created Islam to have an army to help them kill Jews and Christians.
I believe this fulfills some prophecy in Daniel 2.
Daniel 2:41-43 “the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay“
The Strong’s Hebrew word for both “mixed” and “they shall mingle themselves” is 6151 “arab.”
The clay represents the Arabs, the Muslims, who became the great Ottoman Empire, who worked with the Roman Catholic Church, to control the lands previously occupied by the Roman Empire. They both killed Christians and Jews, but they have also warred with each other during the Crusades, as they don’t mix well.
Augustine tried to convert Muslims to Catholicism. Some did, but many did not. So they decided to create a new religion, which worshiped the same basic things, which killed heretics, which promoted their New World Order.
They spread a rumor that a great leader would appear to represent the Arabs and gather them together. Mohammed born in 570 A.D.
Mohammed was trained with Augustine’s Catholic teachings.
Mohammed was influenced by the Augustinian monks, to create the Koran, which has Catholic language in it.
They taught him the virgin birth of Mary, which could only come from them.
Mohammed’s wife was a Catholic dedicated to the Roman Church.
His wife’s cousin Waraquah was a Catholic, who proclaimed Mohammed to be the prophet of the Arabs.
The pope issued bulls granting the Arab generals permission to invade and conquer the nations of North Africa. The Vatican helped to finance the building of these massive Islamic armies in exchange for three favors:
1. Eliminate the Jews and Christians (true believers, which they called infidels).
2. Protect the Augustinian Monks and Roman Catholics.
3. Conquer Jerusalem for “His Holiness” in the Vatican.
They would eventually conquer Jerusalem for the Pope, but they refused to give it to the Pope and they called the Pope an infidel.
The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem was built to honor that ancient site where Abraham supposedly would have sacrificed Ishmael. It is the 3rd most holy place after Mecca and Medina, where he is buried.
Mohammed then attacked Medina and killed Jews.
This started the Crusades when Catholic countries and Muslims warred with each other.
The Catholic Church conquered them in the 1700’s and 1800’s, and they became their tool once again. This matches with the drying up of the Ottoman Empire.
The Pope was never able to control Jerusalem until his British troops seized it from the Ottoman Empire in 1917 A.D. It was then given to Zionist Jews in 1967.
Today, al Qaeda/ ISIS is controlled by the Jesuits of Rome, through the CIA, British MI6 and Israeli Mossad. They were trained by U.S. Marines in Jordan. They were armed by the U.S. They are funded by Saudi Arabia. They are being used to carry out the Jesuit’s Inquisition in killing Christians and Shiite Muslims, to overthrow the leaders of countries like Syria and Iran who have not bowed down to their authority, and to push the world into WW III and their New World Order.
The Jesuits of Rome also control the state of Israel, through the Rothchild family, which uses the hexagram on their family flag and crest, which is why it is on the flag of Israel. The true symbol of Israel is Menorah.
They needed to control Jerusalem to stage their end times deception where their False Messiah will rise up to deceive the world.
Wake up Church! You’ve been deceived by the enemy!
Spot on bro u levelling with us saints who judge angels
Crossed his “t”s and dotted his “i”s. Seeing, they won’t have a clue what they are looking at… hearing, they won’t understand a single sound…
But those who have ears, let them hear it!!!
Romans 11 read and understand its importance
Well i didnt know how Bad Satan has slid its way Into the Hearts and Minds of the Saints.
I Will not be apart of the Falling Away Movement.
Israel today exist because Jesus Christ is the Fullfilment of Promises. Do we believers truly believe satans lies that Israel today is not Israel of Ancient times? That we should not Support Israel because of what a mere human thinks?
Listen children. When Jesus Christ was crusified Our Father should have wiped out Israel and never again would we hear of Israelites ever again. But How can our Mighty God be unfaithful to the Believing Israelites of Ancient time?Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Noah, Samson, Gideon, Former king of Israel David son of Jessi, Zechariah, Ezekiel, Daniel, The 12 Apostles, and the Jews who believed In the New Testament Did not God say to Abraham that The Land of Canaan would be His and his ancestors after him through Isaac and Jacob? How than has satan poisoned the hearts and minds of his chosen Saints?
Our Father sent His Only Beggoten Son to fullfill all promises Our Father made to The Prophets of Ancient Time. To restore Man and Break Sin to be the Bridge to the Father. Israel is surrounded by enemy nations yet God has shown that Even if Israel is like a carcass ready for vultures to devour God Protects the Nation he Established through Abraham. God protects the Nation whom he has given to Jesus Christ as an inheritance One day Yeshua will come back to Claim what is his.
Children If God himself is known as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the God of Israel the True Living God. Than the reason why We his Children should Support Israel because Israel has never had a different God. Like The Surrounding Nations. Egypt never had allah in the days of Abraham, yet Abraham followed our Father. So let us never forget the Believers of Ancient time who Had fellowship with our Father and Stand for Israel not because jews dont believe but because We Honor our God. We Praise and Worship his Begotten Son Jesus Christ. We Stand up for the Nation where the Message of The Lord our God was Born.
How easily people are deceived. The enemy uses a people called ‘Jews’ in a state called ‘Israel’, and Christians believe they are the Jews and Israel of the Bible. Christians exalt these Jews and the state of Israel so much that they support their killing Palestinians and all Muslims for that matter. Oh how Satan must laugh at the Zionist Christians, for they know not the Word of God. Some day you will stand before our Messiah and account for your support of a people that are not the descendents of Abraham. I pray that you can see the truth before it is too late.
There are many Torah Jews who live in Jerusalem and around the world, who believe that the world must know that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name Israel and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people! They believe that the Zionist state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent Jews or Judaism. You can read more about them at these websites: True Torah Jews and Jews United Against Zionism.
Wake up Church! The enemy has deceived you!
Hi everyone,im so glad to found this website.i am a reformed christian from indonesia.most of the christian people on here are supporting the state of modern israel and sadly lots of church leaders also support this act.me and some friends made a christian forum called the national evangelical training.our mission is to tell the christian people in here about the truth of the Gospel that we as the christian people should not support the modern state of israel.almost 50% of israel citizen are secular jews and most of them support same sex marriage.
Thank you for your comment Juris 🙂 Trust me, most Christians in the United State are deceived by the Zionist state of Israel. I try to educate them, but they have been programmed by the enemy. Keep fighting the good fight Juris! Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
Hi!
I find this website and i am so blessed to read this! I have same thoughts and havent ever really get that christianzionism in a first place.. This was very inspirating to read all this 🙂
I think that State of Israel is part of deception mentioned in 2 Thess 2 chapter.
Be blessed 🙂
Thank you for your comment 🙂 I wish that more Christians understood the truth about the Zionist state of Israel. Many have fallen away from truth, that is sure. We need to pray for the true Jews to come to know their Messiah, and we need to expose the deceptions. “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” Ephesians 5:11 Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
I am a Christian , I believe in Jesús and God and attend my Christian church in Los Angeles…I enjoy googling end times info and like reading many different websites about the end times signs and I came across this website. Franklin I am very shocked and half of me dosent want to believe it.. I had even placed pictures of Israel and support slogans on my Facebook page. My church uses the “star of david” regularly as a symbol.. I read that Jesús said that this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled and everyone says that that started in may 14 1948 when Israel became a state. That Jesús was ttalking about the parable of the fig tree….how about that?
Thank you for your comment Jobe 🙂 Yeah, I was shocked to learn all of the things listed in the study too, as I was always taught to support Israel. But the Lord reveals these truths to me and it is my role to help others see them too. I pray for the true Jews, that they read the New Testament to find their Messiah.
Regarding Jesus saying this generation shall not pass until all these thing be fulfilled, He was speaking about things which indeed took place in the generation. In Matthew 23 He had just condemned the Jewish leaders and said that all the righteous blood of the prophets would come upon them in that generation.
Then He proclaimed that the temple would be destroyed, which is the proper context of the Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24. The disciples asked Him about it, and He described what would occur and what would be the sign for them to escape. Read this study on the fulfillment of Daniel 12 to see how the Jews and the temple were desolated in 70 A.D. by the Roman army. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/
Why do Christians focus on Jews in Israel, when the Word of God says that Jesus made both – Jews and gentiles, one church?
Ephesians 2:14-22 “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both (Jew and Gentile) one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”
Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised. “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”
Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of God. “For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”
Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of God. “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”
Galatians 3:16 tells us that the seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ. “Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Christ (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Paul is clearly telling us that true Israel, true Jews, believe by faith, and so inherit the promises made to father Abraham.
“But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” 1 Peter 2:9
Everyone who believes in Christ by faith, are the Chosen People of God. They will inherit Holy Jerusalem when Christ returns. The promise is yet to be fulfilled. It has not been fulfilled by Zionist Israel, which was created by the enemy to deceive the world.
Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
*Amen….!
David
you quoted “Everyone who believes in Christ by faith, are the Chosen People of God. They will inherit Holy Jerusalem when Christ returns. The promise is yet to be fulfilled. It has not been fulfilled by Zionist Israel, which was created by the enemy to deceive the world.”
I doubt ther is one nation on the face of the earth that does not have some of the world’s elite rulers (NWO – people) meddling in their affairs and calling the shots. Rothschild’s may have financed the stting up of the modern State of Israel. As a nation it is very godless in many respects, but that is preciely why Paul says by the Holy Ghost that Israel as an ethnic nation will be saved (Rom 11).
The ‘church’ has not replaced Israel at all. Israel, the children of Abraham, thorugh Isaac and through Jacob, to whom God gave the name Israel,
God aint’ finished with the nation of Israel yet. Of course every single person must repent and believe in jesus Christ and do what He says, taking up their cross daily and follow after Jesus, regardless of race or ethnicity.
In the kingdom of God there is no Jew or Gentile, just as there is no male or female either in God’s Kingdom.
But in this temporal realm, where men still rule, we still are bound by the distinctions between a man and a woman. A man still takes a woman to be his wife. A boy still needs to be treated as a boy and a girl as a girl. As long as this earth remains, and we live in these mortal bodies, there will be distinctions in our social interaction between Jew and gentile, Greek and others, male and female, slave and free.
God told Jeremiah “If My covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth: Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for I will cause thier captivity to return, and have mercy on them.” Jer 33:25, 26.
God is speaking about the Jews, who now have been joined as one in the hand of God and no more a divided nation. Ezekiel 37 God said long ago He will bring the House of Joseph (Ephraim, the ten tribes) and the House of Judah (Judah and Benjamin) together so that they will no longer be two but one, and they WILL be brought back to the land God promised Abraham – from the little river of Egypt to the Euphrates. Though much of this territory is still to be reclaimed later, Jews live in modern Israel because God has called them back there and he has used wicked men to bring this miracle about.
Quote (type in palestine facts.org) “Where did the name Palestine come from?” The name Palestine is given to the region spreading from eastern Mediterranean coast to the Jordan Valley to the area covering Galilee Lake in the north and southern Negev Desert. The origin of this word lies in “Plesheth”. This is a name appearing frequently in the Bible and have started being known as “Philistine” in English. The world root of “Plesheth” lies in the word “palah” was is a term used generally in the sense of migratory, referring to the Palestinian’s conquest of the coast of Mediterranean. These people were mostly originates of Asia Minor and Greece and gradually became a part of the Arab world…. In AD 135, the Emperor Hadrian blotted out the name “Provincia Judea” and renamed it “Provincia Syria Palaestina”. This was the Latin version of the Greek name and soon became a name to be used as an administrative unit. This name was shortened to Palaestina and the name “Palestine” was derived from it as a modern and anglicized version.”
There never was a Palestinian nation or culture of language. The people who became known as Palestinians were Arabs or folk who had embraced Arab religion, culture, language and custom.
The land now known as Israel was in ancient times ‘Canaan’, bearing the mane of Ham’s son Canaan – Gen 10:19. It is an integral part of the covenant that Almighty God made with His friend (Abram) Abraham (Genesis 15.7-16)
Don’t forget what God told Abram in Genesis 12:1-3.
David,
may I raise v21 re your answer re Matthew 24. What has the Lord told you about v21? If the words of our Lord Jesus are only applicable to that generation in which He lived and has long passed, then so does v21 and 22 apply to that generation exclusively.
He raises at least two main points in 21, 22: 1.no greater tribulation; 2.no flesh would be saved.
‘For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
How may Jews were slaughtered in that tribulation of 70AD in Judea? 1 million. 2 or 3 million?
Does that number exceed all other slaughters of Jews by what ever means and for whatever reasons in generations superceding that generation?
Unless you dioscount the tribulation of 6 million Jews in the Nazi death camps, and all those Jews that died under the terror of Stalin (unless you say they were not Jews) doesn’t the later tribulations on the Jews exceed the former one of 70AD?
Adolph Hitler said back in 1933, “The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were …. I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the Church …” Adolf Hitler, 26 April 1933. (http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gbf_jews.htm)
But let’s put the Jewish question aside for the moment.
Jesus is talking to all His disciples. His propehcies in this chapter, are for any disciple of any generation to observe and apply.
Mankind has never been in a more fragile position than this generation. At the touch of a button, if God allowed it, mankind could wipe Himself off the face of the earth, even to blow up the planet perhaps.
It may be postulated that World war 2 saw more people killed than any amount of killing by Roman legions over their entire ruling period to say nothing of the year 70AD. Certainly WW1 and 2 combined. To say nothing of the coming WW3
Tribulation? No greater tribulation than 70AD? All the earth’s population in threat of extinction at 70AD? Hmmmm.
The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ knew full well what each generation’s tribulation would amount to in fatalities. He knew more Jews let alone all flesh would suffer later than at 70AD.
70AD is but a partial fulfillment of waht Jesus was talking about.
I would like to read your answer on this Q David.
Thank you for your comment Ian 🙂 I trust my Messiah’s words in verse 34 “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
Six million Jews did not die in Germany. Experts testify that the gas chambers could have never worked. Experts show that the population numbers of Jews did not fall. Experts have estimated the number of Jews who died at 1 million. They pushed the narrative to help justify the creation of the Zionist state of Israel.
When you understand the visual of what Jerusalem looked like in 70 A.D., you understand Messiah’s words.
So let’s take Messiah at His word and see how in fact His words were fulfilled, when the people of the prince, the Roman army invaded Judea, to desolate the temple, the city of Jerusalem, and the Jewish people.
Here is a summary of what happened, as documented by Jewish historian Josephus:
On the way through Judea to Jerusalem, the Roman army killed Jews by the 10 thousands in the outlying cities. They invaded Judea from the north, marching along the coast, and killing many – 18,000 at Askelon alone.
The Roman army surrounded Jerusalem, cutting off the food supply. Warring factions inside the city destroyed the granaries. This led to a severe famine, killing many. Josephus records that the famine widened its progress and devoured the people by whole houses and families. The upper rooms were full of women and children dying by famine; and the lanes of the city were full of the dead bodies of the aged.
People killed each other as they fought over food. The most horrible and unbelievable torments were inflicted upon all who were suspected of having any food concealed.
The city was divided against itself with rival groups. The most violent party in the city was the Zealots. These called to their aid a band of blood thirsty Idumeans, who set upon the people who were peaceably inclined, and slaughtered young and old until the outer temple was all of it overflowed with blood, and that day they saw 8500 dead bodies there.
But as for the seditious bands themselves, they fought against each other while trampling upon the dead bodies which lay heaped one upon another, and being filled with a mad rage from those dead bodies under their feet, they became the more fierce. They, moreover, were still inventing pernicious things against each other; and when they had resolved upon anything, they executed it without mercy, and omitted no method of torment or of barbarity.
Josephus also tells of the terrible torments inflicted upon nobles and citizens of the better sort who refused to comply with the demands of the Zealots. Those, after being horribly tortured, were slain, and through fear, none dared bury them. In this way 12,000 of the more eminent inhabitants perished.
The noise of those that were fighting was incessant, both by day and by night; but the lamentations of those that mourned exceeded the noise of the fighting.
The dead bodies were not taken outside the city and buried, for fear of being killed, so they stacked up around the city. The blood of all sort of dead carcases stood in lakes in the holy courts themselves.
Pestilence from unclean conditions caused diseases and death.
One man, with the consent of his family, killed his parents, his children, his wife and himself; to save themselves from a worse fate.
A woman, eminent for her family and her wealth, who, while suffering the ravages of famine, slew her infant son and roasted him, and having eaten half of him, concealed the other half.
Because the food supply was cut off by the Romans, Jews out of desperation would sneak out of the city walls at night to find food. They were captured, tortured and crucified by the Roman army. At one point 500 a night were being crucified on the trees around the city, so that all of the trees had multiple bodies on them. And these bodies were not taken down, but left up there to rot and be eaten by birds and animals.
In 70 A.D. when the people of the prince, the Roman army flooded into Jerusalem, they killed the remaining Jews with the sword, trampling over dead bodies.
Birds, dogs and wild animals, ate the flesh of the fallen.
15,000 fugitive Jews were killed by the Romans, and the number of those that were forced to leap into the Jordan was prodigious. The whole country through which they fled was filled with slaughter, and Jordan could not be passed over, by reason of the dead bodies that were in it.
97,000 were taken captive and sold cheaply to places like Egypt, as if back into bondage.
Now visualize the Holy City of Jerusalem with the bodies of 1 million Jews heaped up on all sides, in the temple and all around the city, and hanging in the trees outside the city.
Of this period of great tribulation Jewish historian Josephus says, in the introduction of his ‘Wars of the Jews‘ historical documentary.
“It had come to pass that our city Jerusalem had arrived at a higher degree of felicity than any other city under the Roman government, and yet at last fell into the sorest of calamities again. Accordingly it appears to me that the misfortunes of all men from the beginning of the world, if they be compared to those of the Jews, are not so considerable as they were.”
The sufferings of the Jews had this peculiar characteristic, namely, that they were mostly inflicted upon themselves by the warring factions within the city, concerning whom Joseph says in another place:
“It is impossible to go distinctly over every instance of these men’s iniquity. I shall, therefore, speak my mind here at once briefly: That neither did any other city ever suffer such miseries, nor did any age ever breed a generation more fruitful in wickedness than this was, from the beginning of the world” (Wars V. 10:5).
I’ll keep on trusting my Messiah’s words, as He has provided a witness in Jewish historian Josephus.
David, let’s say you are right on the Hitler holocaust, and 6 mill Jews were not killed at the hand of the Nazis.
Will you also deny what God told Abram about the land his children would inherit, which promise was confirmed to Isaac, and Jacob, and God says that He appeared to the three of them?
Will you dimsiis that track of land, described in Genesis 15:18 as being promised to Abram, later Abraham, and his son – Isaac, and his son Jacob who was named Israel by God?
Jesus Himself said that Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus’ day – John 8:56-58. The Jews knew what Jesus meant, that Jesus appeared to Abraham. And this Jesus, our Lord, promised Abram/Abraham that piece of land.
Just one thing about Josephus. Josephus was speaking of centuries prior to his day up till his day, not centuries later, David.
What Jospehus describes about the Roman’s treatment of the Jews is horrific. No one can dispute that. But…
Jesus (Mat 24) says that unless the Lord had shortened those day for the elect sake “no flesh” would be saved. “No flesh” is not talking about one ethnic group. It’s plain meaning encompasses all ethnic groups in a given time period.
Also “this gospel shall be preached in all the world relates to our day not to 70AD in Judea, it may include Judea, but it is worldwide in its appplication. That statement comes before the ‘no flesh” would be saved.
But if Jesus was speaking of Jews only, and only in His time period or 1st Century period, He would have used a national identity term like Israel, or a generic term identifying Israel – Jews. He doesn;t do that he uses a broad term.
David, you speak of experts; which ‘experts’ refute the killing of the 6 m. Jews under Hitler’s terror reign. Oh…just remembered. Stalin also killed tens of millions of people during his reign of terror. But that did not constitute a danger to ‘all flesh’.
Where did Jesus refer to Josephus or authenticate his records of Jewish killings as being final for all generations?
Ian, let’s be clear. I’m the one who takes Messiah at His Word of “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled”.
So you can dismiss what Josephus said and make all sorts of statements, but the bottom line is that you dismiss what Messiah proclaimed.
If you knew the fulfillment of Daniel 12, you would know the answer about “unless the Lord had shortened those day for the elect sake “no flesh” would be saved.” http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/
The Roman army flooded Jerusalem at day 1,290 of the prophecy of Daniel 12. They killed hundreds of thousands by the sword. There was one last stronghold of Jews which was very inaccessible to the Romans. Then, for no apparent reason, the Jews in that stronghold surrendered to the Romans. This no doubt was the hand of God at work, for their surrender ended the siege at the 45 day mark, fulfilling the prophecy of 1,335 days.
As for “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations”, the word world is oikoumene, which means land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire.
Messiah was talking about the Roman empire, which in those times made up the world. And we know that after Stephen was killed, the Apostles scattered to all parts of the world, preaching the Gospel.
Andrew preached in Scythia, in Greece, in Asia Minor and Thrace.
Philip preached in Phrygia
Matthew went as a missionary to the Persians, Parthians and Medes. There is a legend that he died a martyr in Ethiopia.
Thomas preached in Parthia or Persia and was finally buried at Edessa. The later traditions carry him farther east.
Jude (Thaddeus) taught in Armenia, Syria and Persia where he was martyred.
And we know from the maps of Paul’s journeys that the Gospel was preached all over the Roman world.
The point isn’t that there haven’t been times when more people have been killed. The point is that there was never a more horrific time for people to be terrorized.
For example, Josephus records that one man, with the consent of his family, killed his children, his wife, his parents, and himself, to avoid a worse fate.
He records that because the famine was so bad, that Jews stuck outside the city walls at night to find food. And the Romans caught them, tortured them and crucified them on the trees outside the city. At one point they crucified hundreds every night, so that multiple bodies were on each tree, and that they ran out of trees to hang them on. And they did not take the bodies down to bury them. So thousands or tens of thousands of dead Jews hung on the trees around Jerusalem. And the birds and wild animals came and ate their flesh.
He records that bands of criminals went around slitting people’s throats, pouring out their blood, even in the temple.
He recorded that one esteemed lady killed her infant and roasted it to eat.
He recorded that dead bodies were stacked up all over Jerusalem, and the stench, and disease, and the scene, must have been horrific.
I dare say there has never been such a terrible scene since then.
Jesus didn’t need to refer to Josephus or authenticate his recordings. That is absurd. Obviously Josephus was used to document the events of that time.
As I have answered but it came up on another entry earlier, I must have clcked the wrong tab.
I agree that it is absurd to suggest that Jesus needed to ask Josephus to authenticate His words. I presented it on that basis.
“I dare say there has never been such a terrible scene since then.” This sentence of yours appears, I say appears, to me, that you tend to think that nothing worse has happened since 70AD.
Please note the following:
“Millions and millions of natives perished, to the point where wolves were devouring them alive as they writhed in their villages. Today, the population of Native Americans is widely scattered, and many tribes and ancient customs have been lost forever.”
“Innocent children were injected by Turkish doctors with the blood of typhoid fever patients. Again, the true death counts are up for debate, but estimates of between 600,000 and 1.8 million dead Armenians have been advanced.”
“In the midst of this chaos, Hitler preached his message of hate, using the Jews as the scapegoat for Germany’s fall from grace. The rest is etched into history; the Jews were herded into ghettos, and eventually shuttled in train cars to concentration camps, where they were murdered and tortured in the most inconceivable fashion. By 1945, when the camps were liberated, at least six million Jews had been killed.” The above examples from http://www.listverse.
“The privately owned “Congo Free State” was controlled by Leopold II of Belgium. It is said that during his control of the region he committed numerous crimes against humanity upon the indigenous Africans of Central Africa. Estimated killed: 10,000,000 ” Rant Political
“The Dzungar Genocide was the extermination of the Dzungar people by Qianlong Emperor. Qianlong was a part of the Manchu Qing dynasty, which ruled China, and ordered the Genocide as a means of punishment for a Dzungar rebellion.
Estimated killed: 600,000 ” Rant Political
“The Holodomor was the extermination of Ukrainians by famine. It was perpetrated by the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.
Estimated killed: 7,500,000” Rant Political
“The Asian Holocaust was perpetrated by Japanese Emperor Hirohito and the Imperial Japanese Army during World War II.
Estimated killed: 10,000,000” Rant Political.
These are a few entries one can easily source which seems in a number of cases to overshadow if not equal the 70AD massacre.
Why is it on the other thread I read an hour ago everything was about the Jesuits and now on this thread everything you are saying focuses on the real problem: The fake Jews. This thread is fantastic and 100 percent in line with everything I’ve ever discovered. I just don’t understand the Jesuit nonsense.
Bruce, apparently you commented on the other page before. Yeah, the Zionist deception is huge! And it’s not Jesuit nonsense, it’s the fulfillment of Bible prophecy which points to Rome. Zionist Israel is controlled by the Jesuit Rothchild family, to control the Middle East, and to deceive Christians about prophecy fulfillment, and to control Jerusalem for their One World Government headquarters
Hi Ian,
I try to make it quick.
Isaac and Jacob´s blessing and covenant was made with Judah/Benjamin/Levi (the south Empire) And Israel (North Empire)
Please research now who this is! Its not Esau´s People, wich God hates (except the born again). The Jewish Author and Historian Arthur Koestler, stated this: “. . . the large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of
Eastern European-and thus perhaps mainly of
Khazar—origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors
came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from
Canaan, but from the Caucasus; . . .and that genetically they
are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar
tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ” Arthur Koestler, “The Thirteenth Tribe” . Noah had the Sons Shem and Japhet. Shem was from white, fair skin. So we, the “White Man” is the truth hebrew and Semite. So when Someone calls me Antisemite. I lough and say, but I´em a Semite!
Wake up, We are Israel, The lost 10 Tribes, fugitive to Asyria and to Europe, U.S.A, Canada, Australia, South-Africa, Island. And of course Judah, Benjamin and Levi. Tip: I´em living there!
Jobe don’t put down your guard. Keep going Brother dont let the devil kill What the Lord our God has built I to am A PRO ISRAEL supporter never been to Israel. But i dont need to cause i dont believe by sight I Believe by Faith.
To Gali: Beware, because then you worshipping the Assyrian star, brought by Solomon’s forbidden Assyrians wives, the figure condemned in the Old Testament, submitting yourself to the occult, and telling Jobe to do the same. That occultic “star”, misnomered the “Seal of Solomon” before it was ever deceivingly misnomered ” the star of David” ( who never knew the thing) was part of human sacrifice to satan using the names Ba’al and Molech, UTTERLY CONDEMNED BY YHWH. The Assyrian “star” is kabbalaic witchcraft that is COMPLETELY about idolatry of satan. BEWARE exalting it or any power structure that does, and Beware telling anyone to honor it. Gali, the soul that honors occultic symbols and the agenda thereof, is already deep in deception.
You are right CA in condemning occult symbols. But also be mindful or “Beware” as you say of speaking against what God is doing for His people – HIS people, the sons of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham the friend of God. Genesis 12:1-3. A blessing or a curse; it’s that simple.
God has used wicked men to serve His many purposes over the centuries of human existence.
We do not support wicked men at least not knowingly, but we must not dismiss either, the fact that God has usd corrupt men to return a people to the very geographic location He had promised Abraham by oath and which He affirmed to Isaac and Jacob, and then to Moses and Joshua.
The land now called Israel is but part of the land God promised Abraham which his decendants through Isaac and Jacob would possess. And the UN is about to carve that up too. Woe to them!
Let’s also remember that Jacob was renamed by God to “Israel” because he a mere man prevailed with God, which is what the name Israel means prince or ruler with God. Gen 32:28.
It is only right that the land God promised to the children of Jacob and those who wish to come under his posterity, should be named by the father’s name given by God.
The fact that God has blessed the land which had becoem a misnomer, a curse, now bears fruit and products for all the earth. I have even had the opportunity in Australia to buy peanut butter made, and fruit grown, in Israel. Not bad either.
And before you dismiss these facts, may I ask the following:
Your personal wealth, your assets, the things that you own, has it all come to you ONLY through Bible believing Christians who are sold out to Jesus. THAT WOULD BE A MIRACLE.
If you have been able to benefit by the work and effort of corrupt godless people even the Roths’s and the Packers and any who hate Jesus Christ, even to employ you, or grant you benefits of some kind, it seems a bit hypocritical to judge those who know themselves to be Jews to gain the land God promised to their forefathers by corrupt men.
If you have do any money transactions using US currency …Beware, as youy say, because that currency has the eye of Horus – an occultic symbol; stay clear of it. The pentagram is everywhere, are you sure you don’t have it somewhere among your stuff, in books?
I do not say this to condemn you CA but to raise points you may not have thought about. Let us all be aware and help and pray for one another in these days of tribulation…even all those who are seeking the truth in Jesus Christ.
peace to you all
Ian
These are the most truest and closest to god and Christianity so far that I have seen on this page. AS GOD WELCOMES ALL THAT WELCOMES HIM. Look at all of you condeming, accusing and refusing one another. Is that truly how you interpret the word of god? I know that you all mean well but you should not be blaming the masses because of their lack of knowledge and blind interpretation of their faith. Their mis directional guidence and believes come not from their soul but rather from the more complex and controlling mind of LUCIFER over those with simpler and easily manipulated minds which is of no fault theirs and no reason or right for anyone to pass Judgement on and against as only God has the right of Judgement. It truly saddens me to see so many people from all over that stem from the hand of God, judge and banish the many controlled by Satan and to do this can only mean that Satan also has control of you because if not would mean they come from elsewhere. So to banish and push aside rather than to welcome is only to oppose God and all that he has written for everyone to follow. I wish you all well and ask that you give a thought to the one true message that the Bible gives, God Bless ALL.
Truth.
Are you saying that the so called Jews that occupy israel now are not the chosen people. Will God not deliver them from the Muslim hoards that want to make war with them. So who will occupy Israel in the future. All Christians will loose their faith if God does not deliver the occupants of isreal. This is a big deal. It will bring a lot of doubt as most Christians want to see this happen as it will show Gods power in today’s time frame. We are talking about Faith lost. If God does not save the land of Israel. I believe it could cause so called Christians to kill themselves.
Thank you for your comment Bill 🙂 The article says that Rabbinical Torah Jews believe that the Zionist state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent true Jews or Judaism. They believe that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name “Israel” and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!
The DNA studies prove that most people called Jews are not the descendents of Abraham, but they are descendants of people who converted to Judaism. Put the two together and you can see the truth… that the enemy has created the modern state of Israel to deceive Christians about the end times, and to control Jerusalem so that they can stage their False Messiah in their New World Order.
You are right, when Muslims countries attack Israel in WW III, Christians will be distraught that God didn’t defend his supposed Chosen people. This will cause the world to cry out for peace, and the evil ones will usher in their New World Order in the name of peace and safety.
The evil one has caused the followers of Christ to not realize what they are, God’s Chosen People. The remnant has always been the Chosen One’s. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, the prophets, etc., all trusted by faith that the promised Messiah would atone for their sins. The vast majority of the Israelites chose to worship other gods and were not saved.
John the Baptist, the disciples who were of the House of Israel and the House of Judah, Paul the Apostle, the 3,000 Jews who were saved on Pentecost, etc., all trusted by faith in the atoning work of Christ on the cross. The vast majority of the Jews rejected Him as their Messiah and were lost.
Today the remnant believes in Christ’s atoning work alone, but the majority of people reject Him and are lost. Jews forbid one another to read the New Testament, so they blind themselves to the truth about their Messiah.
There has always been a remnant who believed. The only thing that has changed is that Jesus offered His New Covenant, where He put His law in our minds and wrote it on our hearts.
Everything that was promised to Abraham and his descendents is offered to them in the New Covenant. A remnant has always believed by faith and were saved. The rest tried to be saved by the law and they were lost. That’s true of the Israelites, the Jews, and Gentiles today.
The promises that were made to Abraham are ultimately to those who believe by faith, not his physical descendents.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, etc. all believed that the Messiah would come and atone for their sins. We look back on that event.
Why do Christians focus on Jews in Israel, when the Word of God says that Jesus made both – Jews and gentiles, one church?
Ephesians 2:14-22 “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both (Jew and Gentile) one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”
Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised. “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”
Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of God. “For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”
Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of God. “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”
Galatians 3:16 tells us that the seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ. “Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Christ (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Paul is clearly telling us that true Israel, true Jews, believe by faith, and so inherit the promises made to father Abraham.
“But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” 1 Peter 2:9
Everyone who believes in Christ by faith, are the Chosen People of God. They will inherit Holy Jerusalem when Christ returns. The promise is yet to be fulfilled. It has not been fulfilled by Zionist Israel, which was created by the enemy to deceive the world.
Blessings to you! David
This is one Christian who will lose faith if God does NOT destroy the fake Israel. No Christian, not one, ever ever ever thought that the Jews should be given land in Israel until they repent and accept Christ. Not until, the evil Scolfield Bible and its notes. Google it.
I was an orthodox Jew in name only. I have always disputed the fact that we must pray for Israel and stand by with monetary gifts because it’s not about Israel or the Jews, it’s all about Jesus our Saviour. We who are being saved are all one in Messiah; we are all spiritual Jews; there is no difference at all. I pray for my Jewish brethren just as much as I pray for my non believing Gentile friends. One night, because of the Jewish persecution going on now, I prayed to God asking Him to let me know whether I should immigrate Israel. He showed me in a dream that I would be drinking from a worthless cup if I went because the dead are dead! Besides many other evil things taking place we must remember that Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world; I have witnessed from the broadwalk, the most depraved evil acts taking place on the beaches in Tel Aviv in broad daylight; I had walk away quickly unable to comprehend for a while, what I had just seen. AND people are wanting to support that evil nation???
Thank you for your comment Abigail 🙂 Praise God you can see the truth about the the state of Israel. Their fruit reveals that they are rotten indeed.
The evil one has caused the followers of Christ to not realize what they are, God’s Chosen People. The remnant has always been the Chosen One’s. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, the prophets, etc., all trusted by faith that the promised Messiah would atone for their sins. The vast majority of the Israelites chose to worship other gods and were not saved.
John the Baptist, the disciples who were of the House of Israel and the House of Judah, Paul the Apostle, the 3,000 Jews who were saved on Pentecost, etc., all trusted by faith in the atoning work of Christ on the cross. The vast majority of the Jews rejected Him as their Messiah and were lost.
Today the remnant believes in Christ’s atoning work alone, but the majority of people reject Him and are lost. Jews forbid one another to read the New Testament, so they blind themselves to the truth about their Messiah.
There has always been a remnant who believed. The only thing that has changed is that Jesus offered His New Covenant, where He put His law in our minds and wrote it on our hearts.
Everything that was promised to Abraham and his descendents is offered to them in the New Covenant. A remnant has always believed by faith and were saved. The rest tried to be saved by the law and they were lost. That’s true of the Israelites, the Jews, and Gentiles today.
Grace and peace and love to you in Christ’s name, David
Lord bless and keep you and your generations my dear. Ruth will always set you free, but there are those with thr devils hooks in them walking if not in the dark but in the shadows.
Their Dobson is up to them, reject Christ reject God…no salvation.
Just metro doing your part, metro shining your Light. 😇💓😎💗😃
To Abigail it says a man without dreams and versions will perish so I give you just one of the many I have dream : I was walking amongst the people of the earth and the world was in ruin and I was given a message to give to the people but people did not want to believe who I was and what I was givin but gods patience was at hand and he shook the earth and all who was around me fell and I fell they fell in a circle around me and I was in the middle also on the ground and God lifted my body to heaven and then I stop right before I was able to go in to the last heaven and the spirit was lifted into the last heaven and the people was watching on the ground as I floated in the heaven. And then I came back down . This dream is not to be interpented by any one who can not see or posses the spirit and of the spirit . When I woke the spirit came to me and told me the book you understand and now eat John 14
My boyfriend and I have recently “found out” I guess you would say about these false Jews in the state of Israel. I stumbled upon this article and am glad I found it, it kind of sums up everything my research has said all in one page. THIS DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BECOME WELL-KNOWN TO EVERY CHRISTIAN OUT THERE. Ignorant (sorry) people who aren’t seeing what all the facts point out, and who aren’t reading what is right in front of them in their Bible, are blindly following this “tradition” of supporting Israel. The Ashkenazi are descended from Jeffeth and Gomer, Noah’s son and grandson. Abraham and ALL TRUE ISRAELITES are descended from Noah’s son Shem. The Israelites were forbidden to mate with any of the Hittites, which are the descendants of Jeffeth. The Hittites are the ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews. It adds up and you don’t have to take this page, nor my advice, just go see for yourself READ YOUR BIBLE! IM BEGGING YOU. IF YOU SUPPORT THIS NATION OF ISRAEL YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.
Thank you for your comment Katherine 🙂 The enemy is destroyed when it’s deceptions are exposed. I pray that you share these truths with all that are teachable and desire TRUTH! Blessings to you! David
One step further, the Jews currently in Israel are the descendants of those who converted to Judaism in the 7th century. They have no blood line to any of the Hebrew lineage. Their people were pagans and worshiped multiple gods.
Thank you for your comment Aleem 🙂 Agreed, they are ‘Jews’ by religion only. DNA studies prove that 95% of the people who call themselves Jews are not the descendents of Abraham, and most are Turkish-Mongol bloodlines from Khazaria. Here is a study that covers the DNA studies http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/jews-dna-studies/
Grace and peace to you in Christ’s name,
David
So, The creation in Israel is an end of time prophecy by Jesus. It will be destroyed by the god in the time to come ?
Thank you for your comment Jawahar 🙂 I am not aware of any prophecy by Jesus about the creation of the modern state of Israel. Israel may be attacked and destroyed in WW III, which would cause the world to cry out for an end to religious wars, and usher in the evil one’s New World Order. Keep learning and growing! David
True.
Sholom you know them who say they are Jews but I have one thing against you you worship in the Devils synoguge be cause of false prophets the pope because of false hood 1948 the the state of Israel because you still worship idols depicted as my angels because you have little faith and because you can not see the spirit and feel the the presence of the spirit depart from your wicked ways and see that the light of God will shine on you sholom this is not judgement this is eternal knowledge not by me but by God Yahweh through the the power of the first coming of Christ.
It is really ironic to see ashkenazi fake jews yell and shout to white christians that you are anti semitic when in fact it is they ashkenazims who masscre real semitic descendants of real jews. I strngly agree with the article above in that apocalypse is near at hand for pseudo jews killing real jews and causing christians into sins is obvious omen of the end time.
Thank you for your comment 🙂 The Zionist Jews in the modern state of Israel is one of the enemies greatest deceptions. Zionist Israel is controlled by the Jesuits through the Rothchild family. They use it to control the Middle East, to deceive Christians about prophecy fulfillment, and it is the place where they will stage their False Messiah in their New World Order.
There are many Rabbinical Torah Jews who believe that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name Israel and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people! They believe that the Zionist state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent Jews or Judaism.
Blessings to you in your search for truth!
David
David I posted a reply to you along the line that NOT ALL Rabbiinical TORAH JEWS (HEBREWS if you like) think the same way as the ones on the video you posted. There is a ‘Jewish’ saying that goes along this line – 2 Jews, 3 opinions.
The same can be said for a lot of other folks too.
You speak about how bad the Zionists are who have set up the present State of Israel; therfore the present State of Israel is invalid. Are you God?
It is plain that God has used wicked men as he has in all generations to bring about His own purposes for the children of Jacob. Do you remember a fellow called Baalam…Numbers 22 etc?
A false prophet if ever there was one, spoke absolute truth about God and His chosen seed of Jacob. In one of Baalam’s prophecies is a statement that is not repeated anywhere else in Scripture it goes like this – “God is not a man that he should lie…” Num 23:19.
A false prophet said that David. But God has validated His words, because God put them in the fellow’s mouth. And who are we to say that the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob has not put it into the minds of wicked men to set up Israel as the homeland for His people the Hebrews…also known in the Bible as Jews?
America has had its fair share of wicked men who have been instrumental to bless many many who call themselves by the name of Christ. And God wasn’t in that either I suppose…!!?? Of course He has been. God does not need to ask our advice as to how he should run the affairs of His earth.
The majority of witnesses on this page are Jews. Argue with them. I did not say that ALL Torah Jews opposed Zionist Israel. Stop twisting my words. But the fact that you ignore the witness of these Torah Jews, who you proclaim to support, defies logic.
Here are their websites. Maybe you should listen to what they are proclaiming.
True Torah Jews http://www.truetorahjews.org/our_mission
Jews United Against Zionism http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/whatzionism.cfm
David, I aplogize for inferring that you meant all Zion Jews, by my use of the ‘all’ word. Forgive me. It is something that I strive to avoid.
Most of the Jewish intelligentsia were opposed to Jesus Christ in His day. Let me ask the question; How many Torah Jews of today accept Jesus Christ of Nazareth as their Messiah, and who hold to the view which you are espousing?
This question may APPEAR to have nothing to do with the legitimacy of the modern Israel State, but it is connected. It is connected because of our Lord’s appearances and promises to Abraham which included the land of Promise. And Jesus is the King of that piece of land as a dsecendant of David the king of Israel
Many Jews (Torah or not), because they have not been born of the Spirit of God cannot understand their own Hebrew prophecies. Remember, Jesus was the one who had to open the understanding of His own dsiciples after His resurrection.
I want to repeat a well known comment of Biblical prophecy that has been around longer than me, that is; that Biblical prophecy often has multiple applications, to be enacted over time, and has a final climatic fulfillment.
John said that there are many antichrists; but none of those were ‘THE antichrist of the last of the last days, the one that John said “you heard that the antichrist is coming”, whom he describes later as being cast directly into the Lake of Fire.
Some details in Matthew 24 fit this category. But the detail of the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and much glory, is a once off event.
This great event of the Son of Man coming v 30-31, is mentioned before the statement ‘of v34. I think that speaks for itself.
Sholom because it is his foot stool there’s this white saying people fear what they don’t understand . People will destroy what they don’t believe and people will replace truth because they have the power to do so it is white because Iam black as jasper.lets be clear the bible says if you are not a true Israelite who is of the line of the twelve then they have no authority to teach or preach or even understand the wisdom and knowledge of God Yahweh so all those who not fit will perish and those who awake will be save because of their mighty repentance every knee shall bow
do you know that the jew were there (in their promised land of Israel) 4000 years ago, and that Jesus was born Jewish… so Christianity came later … you have to know, that good Christians are connected in a very strong way to Israel and recognize it’s rights!!!
Did you actually read this article? Because most of the testimonies against the Zionist state of Israel are from Jews.
Adam Oren,
Can I add my two pennys into the mix brother
I do not think that Jesus was, as you said in your comment, “born jewish”…He was born of a woman who was female yes… a descendent of Judah/David, thats true, BUT GOD was the giver of the seed to Mary, NOT a jewish male, therefore He (Jesus) is GODs son and is of the tribe of Judah by His mother (thats why GOD allowed Israelite males to take foreign women as wives, but the women could not take foreign men) the lineage of a Israelite comes through the male Adam NOT the female. You have rightly said David the “jews” cover up this important fact by declareing lineage comes through the woman…not true says Gods word. We, you and I Adam, are children of God THROUGH the promise, the promise being our LORD Jesus which promise comes from above, hence our new birth. We are adopted into this new family through Jesus Christ, who is the seed/promise of GOD as told to Abraham so many many years ago.
The Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinians
These impostors Jews of Khazaria had jumped on the gravy wagon by falsifying their race from Turkic/Mongol origin of Khazaria to the Middle Eastern race, why? Why not? Free land, new homes, settlements, farms and free Western money pouring from collaborating governments and from the fools and resurrection freaks of the Judea-Christians of America . They have been killing the real Semites in Palestine for over 70 years to replace them with these fake impostor Jews. There are decent and god fearing Jews (like the Jews of the Middle East or the Neturei Karta) and all of them disagree with these lunatics Ashkenazis that comprise 92% of Palestine now. The recent DNA findings is a science and is not my word against yours and it shows without a doubt that all of these AshkeNazi Jews are impostors and have no connection to the Middle East Jews and are not the seed of Ibrahim as they claim and never been Promised a land or Chosen as they claim. We all go by the father lineage to trace our ancestry as from Noah past by Shem, past by Ebrahim, past by Isaac and then by Jacob. AshkeNazis, to hide the origin of their ancestry, follow the mother side, why? To deceive us that’s why! But they never thought Science will put the last nail in their coffin at the end! There is a god after all. Now, to all of the supporters of this racist state of Khazaria, you will all have to compensate these poor Palestinians for this 70 years of killing and injustice. Remember what goes around comes around as these haters AskeNazis love no one and especially Germans as they already caused you 2 WW defeats.
The real Hebrew Jewish people of the Holy Bible are the Negro Americans brought over in the slave trade. See the story of Esau and Jacob, See Dueteronomy 28,
Isn’t the internet a wonderful thing? It has done quite a number on our small minds…because if you read it on the internet, well it MUST be true. I’d prefer that my source of information be the Bible, which says that the literal land of Israel will be restored in the last days. We have witnessed biblical prophecy, which is a miracle. And by the way, how ever did they get Abraham’s dna to compare it to 97% of all Jews? I mean, did all of the jewish people get their dna compared to Abrahams? Lol…And of course the black folk are the TRUE people of God, Mr. Jeremiah Wright (smh). What a racist.
Thank you for your comment Stacie 🙂 Yes, the internet is a wonderful thing. What you’re failing to see is that all of the witnesses on this page are Jewish, so your argument is against Jews who are proclaiming these things. They don’t need Abraham’s DNA to map out genetic lines, that is a woeful explanation. Not sure what you’re talking about in regarding to black folk and Jeremiah Wright. There is nothing about them on this study.
Hahaha, thank you for letting Stacie Inouye you don’t need the internet to be dumb and racist and trapped in the MATRIX of lies.
If it is not the bible you live by than what do you live by I tell you any one who’s ancestor who was a slave or an southern American Indian who lived along the Mississippi is. The true Israelite Iam isreals light Iam the way I have the truth Immanuel and Yahweh is my foundation I walk amongst the seven sholom
Well one Stacie. At last a bit of truth here.It amazes me that so-called “Christian Beliefs” claims that Ariella Oppenheimer claimed in her study that Jews are Khazars. I am a keen follower of scholarly articles on population genetics and I can assure the writers of this blog she said no such thing, either in her 20022 study or any other. Deliberately misquoting someone, particularly a scientist, is called LYING. How therefore can the writers of this blog claim to led of the Lord ?
Paul, if you actually read the many studies on this website about the Jews in Israel, you would have seen that there are many Jewish witnesses that the majority of people called Jews are not the descendants of Abraham.
DNA research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, have confirmed that, “97% of the 17 million of the world’s Jews ARE NOT descendants of Abraham.”
Dr. Dan Graur, a world-famous Jewish geneticist who served on the faculty of Tel Aviv University for 22 years and is now at the University of Houston, smiles at the distress of the Zionists. Dr. Elhaik’s research is, he said, “very honest.” Graur is the recipient of the prestigious Humboldt Award, given to the world’s top biological scientist.
In 1867, the great Jewish scholar Abraham Harkavy, in “The Jews and Languages of the Slavs,” said that the Jewish Yiddish language came from the Khazars, not the Hebrews.
The 1905 Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. XI p 533, stated that ‘probably 95% of the persons included in these estimates of Jewish populations are Ashkenazim‘.
The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972) records, “Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, indendendent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazaras professed Judaism… In spite of the negligible information of an archaeologica nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle Ages. Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from with the former Khazar Empire.”
The 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia documents that approximately 90% of the world’s so-called Jews are Khazar.
A. N. Poliak, Professor of Medieval Jewish History at Tel Aviv University, says that the majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not Semitic. Immigration statistics indicate approximately 90% of the world’s so-called or self-styled ‘Jews’ living in 42 countries of the world are emigrants of Eastern European Khazar Jews.
In 1976, a prominent Jew named Arthur Koestler published a book called “The Thirteenth Tribe: The Kazar Empire and Its Heritage.” He wrote: “The large majority of Jews after World War II in the world, were of Eastern origin-and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan, but from the Volga; not from the Canaan but from the Caucausus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race. Genetically, they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”
In 2007, University of Tel Aviv history teacher, Schlomo Sand, verified their Turkish-Mongol heritage in his book called “Invention of the Jewish People.” He says that the “Jews are not a race and have no Israelite connection.”
Rabbinical Torah Jews protest the Zionist state of Israel and say that is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent Jews or Judaism. They believe that the Ashkenazi Jews have illegitimately seized the name “Israel” and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!
http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/who-are-jews/
If you support the Jews, then you should listen to their witness about the leaders of the nation of Israel.
Truth always seems to baffle the willfully ignorant. Lord bless. 😎💕😇
They have no authority to Dna test who the Jewels of God is who embody the light because there history has been strip because of the ancestors disobiedence but this generation will awake by the king light because it shall shine like the sun and moon and stars
God didnt restore Israel from these evil fake jews yet
The Jewish people where taken into slavery by Romans and sent as slaves to the 4 corners of the world. G-d promise them he would establish Juda as a nation. If, anyone are fake Jews is the Hebrew Israelites.
According to my KJV Bible…. nothing in Jerusalem right now is of my Lord and Savior.
ISRAEL will be restored….. at Yahawashi’s second coming and then the redeemed will inherit NEW Jerusalem…..that great city that will come down from Heaven. …..can’t be here now if it comes down from Heaven after Messiahs return.
You do realize that archaeological evidence proves without doubt that the land of Israel is the historic homeland of the Jews don’t you? Over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. You do realize that the Jews are the ones who were being “ethnically cleansed” from the world, hence the need for the rebuilding of the jewish homeland? Hence the motto “never again”, don’t you? You do realize that many famous writers visited the homeland and wrote about what a desert wasteland, how absolutely uninhabitable it was, don’t you? See Mark Twain…and you do realize that “palestine” included egypt and jordan, yet the Palestinians want no parts of them. I wonder why? Well it certainly isn’t rocket science to figure it out. You do realize that the land of Israel is approximately the same size as Vermont, right? I mean, the Muslims have the entire Middle east to fight over, but it’s Israel that they want…of course it is. Because if any “ethnic cleansing” must take place the Q’uran tells us that we must kill the jew and the christian. Your “facts” are disgusting. I’d like to see you shove them, literally, up your back side.
Thank you for your comment Stacie 🙂 Nobody said the land is not the Israel of the Bible. Again, the “facts” are from Jews, they are not mine. Your disgusting comments are to them. Did you bother to listen to the videos and read about the DNA studies from these Jews?
Negros Hispanics and. Native Americans are the real Israelites of the bible the only people who can claim all the cuurses of Deuteronomy chapter 28 vers 1-15-68 blessings and cuurses we were brought here by ship and put into captivity slavery bondage cause we not African American that’s two continent’s most expensive lies in the world we are Hebrew Israelites this book the bible is about how we came out of slavery went back into slavery and still in slavery today we fought to get on the front of the bus now we just walk straight to the back it’s all in our minds now programmed slavery the whole book is about different shades of Brown Negros and when I say Negros I mean so called Hispanics so called African Americans and so called native Americans we all went into slavery trans Atlantic slave trade ever heard of this Africans sold us they didn’t sale other Africans they wouldn’t do that check your research and look it up who would have thought the people that get treated like shit the most for almost 400 years could actually be the ones of the bible they were lost now there found
Unfortunately, Marcus, you overlooked the BLESSINGS of the tribes, particularly Ephraim and Manasseh, and there are only TWO countries which have fulfilled both the blessings AND are now reaping the curses of the passages you state. That would be America and Great Britain, along with most of Western Europe as the other 10 tribes. You have to take ALL the scriptures about something, not just cherry-pick them. The prophecies of Ephraim in Isaiah 28 alone refute your claims of Black Hebrew Israelites.
Ummm… read it. That did not prove that any color of skin was not who they claimed Mrs Gail.
Great Britain and the USA are the extension of the Byzantine empire… where did you think the “Bald Eagle” idea came from??? Because we would rise up on wings as Eagles???? NO.
The blessings WERE RULED OUT…
Have you not read the Old Testament??? YOD HE VAH HE said not only would he do AWAY with ITS chosen people until they were rescued in the Valley, in the last battle.
Last I checked there were plenty of verses that spoke of a FAKE Israel being established until the prophecies were fulfilled.
Very true!!!
True.
African Americans , Hispanics, and Indians are not the true Jews, stop making things up to support your racist ideology which there is no evidence to support it.
Agreed Marcus !
Now…..tell all of your brothers to prepare to be the 144 thousand so we can see Yahwashi return. …cause that is all that has to happen. ….144k true Israelite MEN to be sealed to carry out the loud cry.
Ahman
You are not alone Stacie! Anti-semit at its fullest! The same spirit that gave birth to Hitler, has now given birth to grand children and great grand children! Teaching replacement-theology!! God is NOT done with Israel, he loves them and will restore them! God bless Israel!
Lisa, Stacy stop listening to John Hagee. He is a deceiver. Read the Bible yourselves. From Genesis to Revelation God tells you of these”fake” Jews. Maybe you don’t belong to God and that’s why you can’t see it.Jesus told the Jews You will not see me again until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Loed.”. God IS done with the natural nation of Israel. You are worshipping the beast, Satan.
The idea that God “is done with the Jews” and now He only deals with Christians, is a lie from the devil. It completely contradicts Romans 11. Romans 11:19-23, clearly warns the non-Jew believers not to be arrogant concerning the Jews, because as they have been cut-off due to their unbelief, if you continue in your arrogance, you run the risk of also being cut-off.
Eddie, does this page or website declare that God is done with the Jews? No! What it does is declare is that most of the people called Jews in Israel are not the descendants of Abraham. Physical lineage aside, the Scriptures clearly tell us who is a true Jew, who is of the House of Israel, which Paul was referring to in Romans 11.
In verse 26 he refers to ‘Israel’ and ‘Jacob’. Jacob did not have a covenant relationship with Elohim, until after he wrestled with Elohim and surrendered his heart, and believed by faith. Then he was called Israel.
His descendants are physically Jacob, but only those who believe in the atoning work of the promised Messiah, are called Israel. The very next verse proclaims that promise, which Messiah fulfilled when He died as the spotless Passover Lamb, “For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”
Everything that was promised to Abraham and his descendants is offered to them in the New Covenant.
A remnant has always believed by faith and were saved. The rest tried to be saved by the law and they were lost. That’s true of the Israelites, the Jews, and Gentiles today.
The promises that were made to Abraham are ultimately to those who believe by faith, not his physical descendants.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, etc. all believed that the Messiah would come and atone for their sins. We look back on that event.
Why do Christians focus on Jews in Israel, when the Word of God says that Jesus made both – Jews and gentiles, one church?
Ephesians 2:14-22 “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both (Jew and Gentile) one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”
Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised.
“For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”
Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendants ARE NOT the children of God.
“For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”
Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of God.
“Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”
Galatians 3:16 tells us that the seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ.
“Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say,“And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Christ (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Paul is clearly telling us that true Israel, true Jews, believe by faith, and so inherit the promises made to father Abraham.
“But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” 1 Peter 2:9
Everyone who believes in Christ by faith, are the Chosen People of God. They will inherit Holy Jerusalem when Christ returns.
The promise is yet to be fulfilled. It has not been fulfilled by Zionist Israel, which was created by the enemy to deceive the world.
@Liza and @ stacie, we cant be anti- semitic against people who aren’t and NEVER WERE Semites! So sad. Your gig is up~
Agreed Linda, that is the irony, DAN studies prove that most of the people called Jews are not the descendants of Abraham, and therefore are not semites, therefore we are not anti-semites. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/who-are-jews/
And the other ironic part is that this page is full of people called Jews who witness against the Zionist state of Israel. Are these Jews anti-semites?
Wow, Stacie, I am listening to you, as well as others, but if you are a Christian, how can you talk to your Brother like that? There is a way to discuss these things, even if you are angry, without sinning. This just is not the place for that kind of talk. I know David can handle it but it is not a good witness and you are less credible when you talk like that. I am not trying to judge you, rather admonish you. “May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing to you, Oh Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer!” Just concerned about your witness! You lose people when you talk like that. God Bless you,
Good word!
You’re obviously not led by the spirit of truth, so what spirit is it that would cause you to speak to.a brother in Christ. That way? Or indeed anyone
You lack any credibility when you talk this way
Stacie, let me correct you. I am a Muslim and the Quran does not state that we must kill the Christians or Jews, in fact we should not kill any humans. We are the believers of the 4 books. The Zabur, The Torah, The Bible and the Quran. They are considered our brothers and descendents Abraham. Pls do not misinterpret the Quran. We believe in Peace and Love and everyone should live in harmony, respecting one another despite race, color or creed. Humans are the ones that create chaos using the name of religion for their own benefits. Terrorism is a non Islamic act. For Muslims, we detest that.
Mohammed spend alot of his time in the Qu’ran and the other books about ‘infidels’ and Jews and Christian’s being pigs. To slaughter them wherever you may find them and smite them at their necks. The beginning of the Qu’ran was peaceful, but bloodthirsty and murderous by the end. there are over 300 violent verses in the Qu’ran.
I’m sorry, but your ‘God’ and idol are from Satan. Mohammed was a warlord, murderer, rapist pedophile. The original terrorist.
I don’t think I have read the same ‘Holy’ books as you have and anywhere there is a significant percentage of Muslims, there is civil unrest.
All who live close to Israel have a duty to God to protect it until the real jewels come back from America and the isles
White supremist and the Vatican spend millions to prptray whites as true Jews.
What sort of True follower of Christ would talk this way?
” by their fruits you will know them”
I’m appalled by this comment
By saying this, you lose all credibility in my eyes.
I wouldn’t consider anything you say.
Clearly you are unplugged from the Matrix (of lies)