The Mandela Effect Debunked

This End Times Deception post debunks the Mandela Effect PSYOP, Psychological Operation.

Here is a video that shows how there appears to be changes in the KJV.

It’s war on the minds of believers to get them to doubt the King James, the one version of the Bible that people believe that they can rely on.

People are saying that CERN was used to travel back in time to make the changes, which then caused our current reality to be different.

But if they traveled back in time to make the changes, then everything would have been changed from that point forward, and everyone would have memories based on their changes.

So if they changed the KJV to say ‘bottles’ instead of ‘wineskins’, then everyone would have a memory of bottles.

Don’t you think that the many employees of Chick-Fil-A would have noticed the name change from Chic-Fil-A, and said something about it?

Don’t you think that the many employees and owners of Ford would have noticed that their logo had changed, and said something about it?

Don’t you think that the many employee’s at J.C. Penney would have noticed the name changed from J.C. Penny, and said something about it?

I worked at a Sears for nine years, and our main competition in the mall was J.C. Penney.  The name has not been changed.

It seems that the Mandela Effect only effects people who see the information on Facebook and YouTube, because the rest of the world has not noticed.

I will provide some proofs below, but here is how you can prove that the words have not been changed in the King James Bible.

Here is a link to Smith’s Bible Dictionary, which has been used by students of the Bible since its introduction in the 1860’s.  Just look up the word that supposedly got changed, and it will show you that it has always been in the King James.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/

Many great theologians have written whole Bible commentaries based on the King James Bible.  You can reference their comments that were written from the 16th-19th centuries, which include the words, proving they have not changed.

Here is a link to Matthew Poole’s English Annotations on the Holy Bible, which was written in the 17th century. Look up the passage to see his notes. http://www.studylight.org/commentaries/mpc.html

I also like Adam Clarke Commentary, which was written in the 19th century.
http://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc.html

They proclaim that the Lord’s Prayer has been changed.

They seem to be confusing Matthew 6:14-15, which is the long version of the Lord’s Prayer; with Luke 6:14, which is the short version. When they look at Matthew 6:14-15, it doesn’t seem to read as their remember.

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” Matthew 6:14

What they remember is found in Luke 11:4:

“And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.” Luke 11:1-4

When you look at quotes about the Lord’s Prayer, some people substituted the word “trespasses” from Matthew 6:14, to modify Luke 11:4, so that it reads “And forgive us our trespasses; as we also forgive every one that trespasses against us.”

They proclaim that the lion was changed to a wolf, in Isaiah 11:6

That is an association that people have been conditioned with.  No doubt many Pastors have said ‘the lion and the lamb’, but the Bible has never said that.

Isaiah 65:25 also says the wold, “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.”

Here’s a manuscript from the Dead Sea Scrolls which proves it out.

Wolf and the Lamb, not Lion and the Lamb

Mandela Effect: Lion & Lamb FULLY Debunked with 18 centuries of proof of Isaiah 11:6

If you Google Isaiah 11:6 and look at the images, you see memes like this:

wolf-lamb

Here’s one that creates the false association. The verse says ‘wolf’, but the image has a ‘lion’.

Lion Lamb Wolf Isaiah 11:6 Mandela Effect

If you go to Bible Hub and look up that verse, every Bible version says ‘wolf’.

The NIV, NAS, ESV, NKJ, YLT, etc., all say ‘wolf’.

So the Mandela effect would have had to change all Bibles, not just the King James.

Here are Bibles that preceded the King James, which all say ‘wolf’.

The Geneva Bible (1587)
The wolfe also shall dwell with the lambe, and the leopard shall lie with the kid, & the calfe, and the lyon, and the fat beast together, and a litle childe shall leade them.

The Bishop’s Bible (1568)
The Woolfe shall dwell with the Lambe, and the Leoparde shall lye downe by the Goate: Bullockes, Lions, and cattell, shall kepe company together, so that a litle chylde shall leade them.

Miles Coverdale Bible (1535)
The shal ye wolfe dwel with the labe, and the leoparde shal lye downe by the gote. Bullokes, lyons and catel shal kepe company together, so that a litle childe shal dryue them forth.

The Wycliffe Bible (1395)
A wolf schal dwelle with a lombe, and a parde schal reste with a kide; a calf, and a lioun, and a scheep schulen dwelle togidere, and a litil child schal dryue hem.

And here are Bible commentaries from the top theologians of the 16th-19th century, who all speak of the wolf.

Albert Barnes’ Notes on the Bible 19th century
Isaiah 11:6
The wolf. By nature the wolf preys upon the lamb, and the leopard upon the kid, and the adder is venomous, and the bear, and the cow, and the lion, and the ox, cannot live together.

Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible Early 19th century
Isaiah 11:6
The wolf also shall, etc. “Then shall the wolf,” etc. – The idea of the renewal of the golden age, as it is called, is much the same in the Oriental writers with that of the Greeks and Romans: – the wild beasts grow tame; serpents and poisonous herbs become harmless; all is peace and harmony, plenty and happiness: –

Geneva Bible Footnotes 16th century
Isaiah 11:6
The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible 18th century
Isaiah 11:6
And the wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,… This, and the three following verses Isa 11:7, describe the peaceableness of the Messiah’s kingdom; and which the Targum introduces in this manner,

Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible 17th century
Isaiah 11:6
Ver. 6. The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, &c.; the creatures shall be restored to that state of innocency in which they were before the fall of man.

These Bibles and commentaries did not get changed. People associate the Lion and the Lamb, because those are descriptions of Messiah. It’s a false association, that was created by Pastors, by songs, by books, etc.

They proclaim that wineskins was changed to bottles in Matthew 9:17.

Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

The translators of the KJV felt that the word ‘bottles’ fit the description best, as they had used bottles 10 other times and the word bottle 14 times.

Bottles: Joshua 9:4, 9:13, 1 Samuel 25:18, Job 32:19, 38:37, Jeremiah 48:12, Hosea 7:5, Matthew 9:17, Mark 2:22, Luke 5:37, 5:38

Bottle: Genesis 21:14, 21:15, 21:19, Judges 4:19, 1 Samuel 1:24, 10:3, 16:20, 2 Samuel 16:1, Psalms 56:8, 119:83, Jeremiah 13:12, 19:1, 19:10, Habakkuk 2:15

“Smith’s Bible Dictionary” has been used by students of the Bible since its introduction in the 1860’s.  For the word ‘bottle‘ is says:

The great leathern bottles are made of the skin of a he-goat, and the small ones, that serve instead of a bottle of water on the road, are made of a kids skin. The effect of external heat upon a skin bottle is indicated in ( Psalms 119:83 ) “a bottle in the smoke,” and of expansion produced by fermentation in ( Matthew 9:17 ) “new wine in old bottles.” Vessels of metal, earthen or glassware for liquids were in use among the Greeks, Egyptians, Etruscans and Assyrians, and also no doubt among the Jews, especially in later times. Thus ( Jeremiah 19:1 ) “a potters earthen bottle.” (Bottles were made by the ancient Egyptians of alabaster, gold, ivory and stone. They were of most exquisite workmanship and elegant forms. Tear-bottles were small urns of glass or pottery, made to contain the tears of mourners at funerals, and placed in the sepulchres at Rome and in Palestine. In some ancient tombs they are found in great numbers. ( Psalms 56:8 ) refers to this custom.–ED.)

The following esteemed theologians who wrote King James Bible commentaries during the 17th-19th centuries, all describe the use of the word ‘bottles’.

Albert Barnes’ Notes on the New and Old Testaments.
John Calvin’s Commentaries.
Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible.
Commentary from the 1599 edition of the Geneva Bible.
John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible.
Matthew Henry’s Whole Bible Commentary.
Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible.
John Wesley’s Bible Notes.

Every modern Bible uses the word bottles, instead of wineskins as used in the King James.

Most pastors do not use the King James due to archaic language, so they no doubt have repeatedly used the word wineskins, which created the association in people’s minds.

They proclaim that the word ‘tires‘ was inserted into Ezekiel 24:23

And your tires shall be upon your heads, and your shoes upon your feet: ye shall not mourn nor weep; but ye shall pine away for your iniquities, and mourn one toward another.

“Smith’s Bible Dictionary” has been used by students of the Bible since its introduction in the 1860′. For the word ‘tire‘ it says:

an old English word for headdress. It was an ornamental headdress worn on festive occasions, ( Ezekiel 24:17 Ezekiel 24:23 ) and perhaps, as some suppose, also an ornament for the neck worn by both women, ( Isaiah 3:18 ) and men, and even on the necks of camels. ( Judges 8:21 Judges 8:26 )

John Gill, a biblical scholar in the 18th century, wrote a whole Bible commentary on the King James called John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible. For Ezekiel 24:23 he confirms that is says tires.

And your tires shall be upon your heads, and your shoes upon your feet. As will be necessary while travelling, and when carrying captive to a foreign country, as now will be their case:

It’s not talking about car tires, but an ornamental headdress that people wore on their head.

They proclaim that Messiah has been changed from being the ‘cornerstone‘ to the ‘head of the corner‘.

Once again, it’s just ignorance of other Scriptures which declare that Messiah is the cornerstone, which causes them to believe that 1 Peter 2:7 has been changed.

which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

In the previous verse, 1 Peter 2:6, Peter declares that Messiah is the corner stone.

Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

The Scriptures still declared that Messiah is the cornerstone.

Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Matthew 21:42

And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: Mark 12:10

And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner? Luke 20:17

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Acts 4:11

For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner. Acts 26:26

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Ephesians 2:20

1 Peter 2:7 was not changed. Peter had just provided another way to say it, as he had already said ‘corner stone’ in the previous verse.

They proclaim that Luke 17:34-35 said ‘two people’ would be in the same bed, not two men.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The context of the passage is not about Messiah teaching against sexual perversion.  He was simply naming times when two people would be together, in similar circumstances; one taken, one not.

In our privileged world we think that the only reason two men would be in the same bed is for sexual perversion.  Go live in a poor country and you will see that they sleep in the same bed.    In a situation where many people have to live in the same house, should a man and woman who aren’t married sleep in the same bed?  No!  The men should sleep in the same bed, to ‘prevent‘ sexual problems.

They proclaim that Luke 17:35 used to say that two women were grinding at the mill, but now are just grinding, which they say is a perversion.

Luke 17:35 never had the word mill, but Matthew 24:41 does, “Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”

Just another case of people not doing their homework to see that one Gospel has the word mill, thus the association; which they think has been changed in Luke. The word mill was never in Luke, so nothing has been changed.

The two women ground together because it took both of them to operate the hand mill, as one could not do it alone.

People proclaim that Exodus 13:12 used to say ‘womb’, but now says ‘matrix’. 

That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD’S.”

They are thinking of Exodus 13:2, which says “Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.

So it’s just a matter of confusion between the two verses, which have never changed.

They claim that Peanuts writer Charles M. Schulz’s name used to be Schultz.

I grew up loving Snoopy! His name was never Schultz, that is just an association that people have because that name is more common. People hear Schulz and just assume that it’s spelled Schultz.

Don’t you think that his family would have noticed the name change and said something?

Does it really seem plausible that CERN changed every newspaper that was ever printed which featured his comic strip? And all of the merchandise was changed too? I think not!

Here are links to images of Charles Schulz’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Schulz_star.jpg/800px-Schulz_star.jpg

Charles M. Schulz Highland Arena on Snelling Avenue and Ford Parkway in Saint Paul, Minnesota. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Charles_M._Schulz_Highland_Arena.JPG

And his Congressional Gold Medal
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Charles_Schulz_Congressional_Gold_Medal_obverse.jpg

Here is a testimony from Ryan James who had originally proclaimed that the Mandela Effect was true.  He follows it with proofs that it is not true.

I’m burdened to share with you what all I’ve learned since posting about the Mandela Effect last Saturday night. I must say again that I’m terribly sorry for posting about this without examining it further. Like many, I was beyond shocked to see a Scripture that I had known for years was not the way I thought it was in the KJV Bible. I felt like a spell had been cast or somehow history was changed.

After further examination, time with God, and fellowship with trusted brethren, I must say that I do believe this is all a demonic PSYOP to make many question God’s Holy Word, question their sanity, and also to discredit the truth movement.

What they have done is they took many things that the masses thought were true and used it against us to make us think it actually was and that we are somehow living in another reality.

I’m going to debunk each and every example that I posted with hopes that the ones that still believe in this will not give into this deception any longer. This is deep psychological warfare and we need to be aware of Satan’s devices.

Example 1 Debunked- Matthew 7:1 is a verse that many, including myself thought was, “Judge not, lest ye be judged..” and the KJV states that it’s “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” Now, to begin with, the meaning is the exact same. If Satan was going to try to change God’s Word, he wouldn’t change a verse to mean the exact same thing. It just doesn’t make sense. Yes, the serpent is subtle, but his changes would effect the meaning of a verse or passage. When Paul Washer quoted Judge not, lest ye be judged…”, he wasn’t quoting it from his Bible. It he was, then yes, RED FLAG. But that’s not the case. You can go online and see time and time again that Matthew 7:1 in the KJV has always been “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” Many people, including myself thought that “lest ye be judged” came from the KJV because it’s Old English or Shakespearean if you will, but it did not. The Orthodox Jewish Bible does state the misquote of Matthew 7:1 the way we thought it was. When people repeat things over and over, you will in fact believe it is true. It never came out of the KJV from what I can gather, it’s just highly misquoted.

Example 2 Debunked- Matthew 9:17 has the word “bottles” instead of “wineskins.” Again, this doesn’t change the meaning of this verse the slightest bit. It seems as though every other version of the Bible says “wineskins” and it’s been repeated and preached so much that there’s no reason to believe it doesn’t say “wineskins.” Apparently the translators of the KJV thought “bottles” fit the Scriptures best as in comparison to “wineskins.” You can go on You Tube and see for yourself many preachers reading “bottles” out of the KJV. God’s Word will always stand. If changes are made to the Bible, scholars of the Word of God would gather and have the correct one printed in days.

Example 3 Debunked- “Sex and the City” used to be “Sex in the City.” Not true. Although, “Sex in the City” makes much more sense, it’s been misspoken time and time again, even in newspaper articles and promotions. It’s always been “Sex and the City.” Subconsciously, “Sex in the City” sounds much better. Our memories are still in tact guys. You want to know the truth? Call up the producers or cast members or die hard fans.

Example 4 Debunked- Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Theme Song “It’s a beautiful day in this neighborhood” is a highly misquoted song lyric. Many say, “It’s a beautiful day in THE neighborhood” instead of “THIS.” It’s been repeated wrong in movies, TV shows, and because “the” sounds better than “this” in our subconscious, we say it wrong thinking it’s the right lyric. Ask anyone that worked on the show. It’s always been “this” and not “the”.

Example 5 Debunked- This one freaked me out a bit and it’s the fact the movie “Interview with the Vampire” is misquoted often as “Interview with A Vampire.” It’s another one of those things that makes much more sense in our subconscious, so we say it thinking its correct. You can look back at old interviews and posters and promotions and it’s always been “Interview with THE Vampire.” Humans tend to say what makes sense the most. It’s been misquoted on TV and magazines and people that see that think it’s the correct title, when it’s not.

Example 6 Debunked- this one is easier to explain. The movie “Snow White and the 7 dwarfs” has a famous quote, “Magic Mirror on the wall, who is the fairest one of them all?” The masses believe it’s “”Mirror, Mirror on the wall” instead because if you go back to the actual children’s book of “Snow White” it’s quoted “Mirror, Mirror.” Generally, plays and musicals will go by what the book says rather than the movie itself and that’s why you hear the quote, “Mirror, Mirror on the wall” all of the time. It was actually used. Just not in the movie.

Example 7 Debunked- This one is also easily explained and it’s the fact many believe that “Berenstain Bears” used to be spelled “Berenstein Bears.” Not true. Here’s why. The publishers of “Berenstain Bears” didn’t sign onto many other books, plays, posters, toys, advertisements, etc. with the spelling of “Berenstein Bears.” You did actually see It spelled like you might remember it, but it wasn’t on the official books. It’s another one of those things that sounds better, so your subconscious went right along with it.

Example 8 Debunked- “Looney Tunes” is not “Looney Toons” although it looks so much better. It’s yet another subconscious mind trick. “Toons” is short for “cartoon”, so of course you would think its “Toons” and not “Tunes”. Not the case. You may have thought it was “Toons” because there were shows like “Tiny Toons Adventures” that had it spelled the other way.

Example 9 Debunked- This one got me pretty good. It’s from Star Wars Episode 5 where Darth Vader says to Luke, “No, I am your father.” It’s been repeated “Luke, I am your father” in movies, TV shows, advertisements, t-shirts, and all sorts of others things. There’s been articles about this misquote for many years. Even the biggest Star Wars fans get it wrong. It’s yet another subconscious mind trick. Someone said it, the masses caught on, and the rest is history.

Note: The original film came out in 1977 a time before the internet and everybody remembers the original line which says “Luke I am your father“. Fast forward to current times and you will find that the film has been remastered and re-release on DVD; it is on this current version that it now says “No I am your father“.

Example 10 Debunked- The TV commercial for Sara Lee goes “Nobody doesn’t like Sara Lee.” But that doesn’t make sense, right? That is exactly why we think it’s “Nobody does it like Sara Lee.” It’s not correct. People have been misquoting this for dozens of years. You can just do a quick Google search and see that it’s one of the most misquoted slogans of all time. Satan knew it and he used it for his advantage.

Well guys, it’s been a tough 3-4 days for me. I barely slept Saturday evening and Sunday at work, I felt like I stepped into the Matrix. But suddenly, people like Joshua Busby and others were coming up with resources debunking mistruths and at first, I was a little upset because I was convinced it was true. But when I woke up on Monday morning, the Holy Spirit told me that this is all a lie.

I began researching and looking over God’s Word again and concluded that I had been tricked. This is the type of mind tricks that magicians and mediums will do to freak your mind out. It’s pure psychological trickery. Nobody went back in time and changed anything. God’s Word hasn’t changed. Rest easy friends.

Please, do not tie this PSYOP to other conspiracies that people in the truth movement present. It’s illogical and misleading. Most of this world is blind and deceived by indoctrination and what they see on the Tell-lie-vision and mainstream media outlets. Truthers are going to be wrong about things. We are human. It’s when truthers refuse to admit they as wrong that causes problems.

I URGE YOU GUYS WITH ALL SINCERITY >>DO NOT PUSH THIS PSYOP<< People will discredit you and shut everything you said in the past off as “conspiracy” instead of truth. I want this post to edify and reprove anyone that is still thinking the Word of God had changed. It hasn’t! It’s the SAME. I love you guys.

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342 thoughts on “The Mandela Effect Debunked”

  1. Our family optometrist who does a lot of wonderful vision therapy told me that the brain hates confusion. Makes you think that the brain may make mistakes for the sake of peace.

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  2. I’m a King James Only bible believer and study from the authorized 1611 KJV. The so called Mandela effect is a mind playing trick by a demon and possibly Satan himself. Don’t fall for the great deception people it’s already here. I’m happy to expose the LIES of the Mandela effect as a born again believer in Christ. All the other English bible translations are wicked and are of the devil who tries to fool each and every one of us. It’s a trap and a trick saying that the KJV bible has been changed by the Mandela effect. My response to you is HOGWASH, what change what in the hell are you talking about? My King James Version bible is perfect, preserved, inspired and absolutely 100% correct.

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    • My my my, people are falling for this Mandela effect and the great deception. I can tell you that we are also living in the last days as well and you people are wrapping your minds around this Mandela effect hoax? You should be more concerned with how the U.S government is going to put us in prison then take us to the FEMA CAMPS. From there we are going to all walk in single file lines and go straight to the guietines I can’t even spell right. From there we are going to suffer persecution by getting our heads amputated right in front of everyone. There’s nothing you can do about it even if you try and fight your way out of it. America is indeed Mystery Babylon in the scriptures. The Anti Christ, false prophet and third eagle of the apocalypse are already here. I won’t say who their names are I’m sure you already know by now

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      • Mystery Babylon is NOT a country. Its a worldwide religious system. Remember, its a whore with harlot children. What religious system birthed all the blasphemous religious systems we see today? The VATICAN. The Roman Catholic Church also started Islam, look it up.

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          • Mystery Babylon is Mecca.

            7 Hills, City by the sea, the Stone, the harlot, the wine(oil), nations all sick(insane) from drinking this oil

            Keep your eye on Turkey, Saudi Arabia along the red sea, and Iran.

            As far as the Mandela Effect is concerned, true or not true it is a sensational and effective deception none the lesser! It has spread with viral effect and become the focus for many. (when the focus should be on Jesus and Gods clear instruction of his children – what else matters?)

            Jesus speaks of the perversion of his word in end times. I believe this is part of the devils perversion, sensational deceit.

            Our calling as Christians is to go out and spread the Word of God and plant seeds, that has not changed and no parallel dimension, or giant positron extracting hula hoop can change that.

            He is coming, Love Him, Trust Him, and follow his commands. Live only to seek Him and remain in prayer. The persecution of Christ and his Church are well under way. Forgive and Repent, our days of the life we have come to know are numbered. God Bless all of you. Be vigilant and steadfast! I love you all brothers and sisters, take care.

          • Mystery Babylon is not Mecca.

            Revelation 17:3 “And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”

            In the prophecies of Daniel the ten-horned Wild Beast is the fourth Gentile empire, or the Roman. No city ruled the Roman Empire but Rome.

            The Jesuits are the controlling power of the Roman scarlet beast that is using the Harlot Roman Catholic Church to draw the world under their control.

            The scarlet represents the blood they have shed during their Inquisition of killing the followers of Christ.

            They proclaim the blasphemous name “the Society of Jesus,” but they are really “the Society of Satan.”

            Revelation 17:4 “The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.”

            “The color for bishops and other prelates is purple, for cardinals scarlet… The pectoral cross should be made of gold and… decorated with gems…”
            (Source: Our Sunday Visitor’s Catholic Encyclopedia, 1991, p. 175, 178, 466)

            Revelation 17:5 “And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,

            They are called “Mystery, Babylon the Great,” because they pretend to be Christian, but they’re really the Babylonian religion of Sun and Satan worship.

            Revelation 17:5 “THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

            They have created all the major false religions, including Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, the New Age Movement, etc.

            The Catechism of the Catholic Church proclaims that they are the ‘Mother’, the author of salvation, the teacher in the faith, and the head of all believers; which is an abomination.

            169 Salvation comes from God alone; but because we receive the life of faith through the Church, she is our mother: “We believe the Church as the mother of our new birth, and not in the Church as if she were the author of our salvation.” Because she is our mother, she is also our teacher in the faith.

            181 “Believing” is an ecclesial act. The Church’s faith precedes, engenders, supports and nourishes our faith. The Church is the mother of all believers. “No one can have God as Father who does not have the Church as Mother” (St. Cyprian, De unit. 6: PL 4, 519).

            Revelation 17:6 “I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.”

            “History of the Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, Vol. 2″ documents “That the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood than any other institution that has ever existed among mankind will be questioned by no Protestant who has a complete knowledge of history.”

            Historians estimate that during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition, the Roman Catholic Church killed over 50 million people whom they deemed as heretics, most of which were Christians who dared to own a Bible (which the Church forbid) or proclaimed the Gospel of Christ.

            At one event, remembered as the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre, an estimated 100,000 Huguenots (Protestant Christians in France) were slaughtered.

            In Spain alone the number of condemned exceeded three million, with about 300,000 burned at the stake during the length of the Spanish Inquisition. (Source: Page 259 of an updated version of “Foxe’s Book of Martyrs”; 2001; Publisher: Bridge-Logos.)

            Here is a link to the rest of the explanation. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/revelation-17-the-harlot-roman-catholic-church/

            Thank you for the encouragement to the brothers and sisters in Messiah. Our role is to be as the Two Witnesses of Revelation, who testified that the Popes of Rome are the antichrist; and that salvation is by faith in Messiah’s atoning work alone, not by works.

  3. There is a major difference between ‘ Judge not, lest ye be judged and Judge not, that ye be not judged!

    One is stating do not judge for fear that you will be judged..

    The other is stating do not judge and you won’t be judged.

    I would say that’s a pretty big difference!

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    • What’s your point? That the Mandela effect is real? Or that all these modern translations don’t give the same message that the King James Bible does?

      Are you trying to say that all the Bibles are worded exactly the same? If so, then you have successfully lost your mind, and the psyops worked beautifully on you. If the modern Bibles didn’t change the words, they couldn’t get a copyright and couldn’t make the dollar$. Get it? I don’t know anybody who reads modern Bibles because of their accuracy. They read them for their ease of reading, for context and to harmonize scripture. Then you use the King James to memorize and fine-tune your study.

      Most evangelical Christians when they/we were newly saved, we heard modern Bibles read over the radio and TV and in the charismatic and evangelical churches. That’s what we heard. So now that we have King James Bibles, which most of us haven’t ever actually read, now we’re shocked because the words don’t exactly match what we heard on CBN or Christian radio?

      This is a government psyops all the way — designed to discredit the Bible and to put fear and confusion in our minds, so we will be more easily influenced and led around. This is the government’s way. They are a bunch of criminals, working for criminals, and they lie and deceive. This is their little CIA/Mossad spy agency campaign to throw more disorder and panic and confusion and outright insanity into the population. The same with the Flat Earth psyops. It’s all about confusing us, and taking away our Rock, which is our Bible, to make us seem like we’re a bunch of weirdos that will believe any kind of nonsense. When people are frightened and confused tehy can’t think straight. The Bible says God gives us power, love and a SOUND MIND.

      Don’t even consider this stuff, this nonsense. A parallel universe, which is used to explain this psyops lie, would mean that God is either weak or evil or both. It would mean that Satan has equal power to create a universe, and it would mean that God cannot preserve his own Word. But Psalms 12 says otherwise. Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are PURE words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt KEEP THEM, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation forever.

      If you believe this horrific lie, you are saying you believe that there is no reality. Once you buy into one lie, then you are at the mercy of the Great Deceiver to believe any and all other lies. You have lost your mind! This is how people end up in mental hospitals, and never get out.

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  4. I did google “pictures of Isaiah 11:6” and hundreds of pictures of a lamb and lion came up. For every 10-15 pictures of a lamb and lion, there was 1 (one) of a wolf and lamb. A song we sing at church goes, “How blessed the day when the lamb and the lion Shall lie down together without any ire, …..” Are you really seeking truth, or sticking your head in the sand?

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    • people claim that mandela effect, changes what will come up with google searches for example if you searched fruit loops only froot loops will come up but if you search luke i am your father the actual scene will come up and debunk it but if you search lion and sheep both come up heck more so for the lion and the lamb which would go to prove its just a misunderstanding.

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  5. I agree with most comments. I am not absolutely sold on this phenomena, but I dont believe it can be so easily debunked. Too many people are noticing the same changes and even I can debunk some glitches but I have to believe we are living in interesting times. Nothing to fear though. The spiritual need to embrace and help others to get on board for maybe the ride of our lives.

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  6. I do agree that this seems so totally off the wall, it isn’t funny. Personally I don’t think anyone has set out to “change” anything. However, the more examples I look at I have to say that something “unexplainable” is going on. Your debunking is really nothing more than a well worded disagreement. It didn’t “debunk” anything.
    For the sake of argument, let’s say these changes have taken place. What I have noticed is that they are things in our culture that we have been trained (for lack of a better word) to notice. After all what do advertisers do but make sure we notice their product/logo. Brand recognition is the term. They are very good at what they do. We all have commercials in us that we could start to sing at a moment’s notice. Same with entertainment. Our culture literally idolizes entertainment. So song lyrics, lines from popular movies all become “embedded” into the cultural mind. Go to any comic con and misquote lines from Star Wars or Star Trek or whatever, and you will have rabid fans jumping down your throat. Also with the bible. As kids we are encouraged to memorize bible passages (write them on your heart) so we can be confident to know God’s word, should you ever find yourself suffering persecution and don’t have the bible. It should be written on your heart. So the fact that people are seeing changes to things they really pay attention do actually makes perfect sense that , this is where changes would be seen. Big question is, how many changes have gone by unseen?
    Now that being said. What I have come to understand is that these so called changes (for the sake of argument) have affected the original copies. So if I could dig out an original reel of Snow White it would say magic mirror instead of mirror mirror, meaning even the copies that could be used to debunk are changed. Well you see where this is going. IF this is real, the ONLY evidence is the collective memories of thousands/millions of people. Impossible to truly debunk. As well as to prove. As you also pointed out there are those who only “remember” the changed version. If this was part of the change, it would also be impossible to prove. Kinda like faith. Can’t be logically proved.
    As I began by stating, I don’t think anyone has set out to make these changes. At least not a man. Our battle is not with flesh and blood, and our adversary is after all a minor god. A heavenly being. His inspiration is indeed behind this, because simply put. Man isn’t smart enough to do this. CERN is just a tool created by man for his purposes. These changes we call the Mandela Effect are probably a totally unforeseen result. A quirk if you will.
    So until I see more than a strong objection, I personally believe there is something extremely powerful and dangerous at work. However, I know God is sovereign, and no matter how clever Satan is, God will overcome.

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    • his debunking put this to rest for me because even though you claim its just clever wording it would seem you missed the entire point behind his debunking. for example guys if people in australia were like how in the heck did i get over here id be like okay maybe something is up, etc. like how is there nobody manufacturing froot loops and is like why does the name keep changing. and if you know anything about factory work youll see people stay there for life because of minimum requirements and decent pay. so a place littered with veterans and none of them are experiencing this. i have to say i trust there silence far more than i do on my long lost memories of the product. should people like that step up then ill change my tune but if it hasnt happened yet it probably isnt going to happen.

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      • Ian, you are not understanding it either, if something/someone goes back to the past and changes fruit to froot and then comes back. Even if you ask all the employees they will tell you that it has always been froot because the reality has been altered. Mandela effect is people remembering what things where like originaly before something/someone went into the past/or found a way to shift realities and changed how things where shaped, said and appeared. The people that are remembering for some unexplainable reason remember how things originally where before someone/something messed with our current reality. Like if I went back to the 1700’s and changed the original american flag to black, red and blue. When I got back all the flags would be red,black, blue. Even if people for some reason remember red,white and blue there would be no way to prove it because as far as history goes it has always been red,black and blue. There would be people like this guy Dave who will say, oh but look at history books they all say red/black/blue. They will because the reality was messed with and became factual.

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  7. LUKE 17 “promoted Homosexuality”
    34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
    35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    2 KINGS 18 “Bible has never promoted eating human feces or used profanity”
    27 But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

    LUKE 19:27 “God says thou shaw not kill”
    27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

    NUMBERS 23:22 “Unicorns have never existed they are mythical creatures used here to make the bible a mythical book”
    22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

    ISAIAH 11:6 “MATT 7:15 says The devil is a wolf in sheeps clothing”
    6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

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    • I have the NIV version.
      –Luke 17: 34-35
      “I tell you, on that night two people will be one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”
      –Numbers 23:22
      “God brought them out of Egypt; they have the strength of a wild ox.”

      I’ve always wondered why God condemns murder, yet promotes it in verses like Luke 19:27. Hm.

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      • Mine says the same thing as yours. Wild ox. No mention of unicorns in my bible also. My bible was handed down to me through the ages and used it frequently during what i will say was a highly important time for me dealing with a lot of paranormal activities going on at my house. My bible also uses the words wineskins instead of what others say it says bottles now. Seems my book hasn’t changed…very odd.

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    • The KJV authors used ‘unicorn’ to describe some animals from the middle east. England has different animals. I read about the use of ‘unicorn’ in the Bible many years ago when I was a child or a teen. It is not something new. It’s just the choice of words the KJV author’s used.

      Two men being in a bed is not homosexual for people who aren’t in a dirty minded society. Jewish society hadn’t just legalized gay marriage. In one parable, a man says his children are in bed with him when he doesn’t want to come to the door to give his neighbor bread in the middle of the night. We shouldn’t read sex into the story.

      Jesus telling a story about a king who says to slay his enemies is not telling you to commit murder. READ THE WHOLE STORY!

      The Bible warns that the Devil goes about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Why is it okay for a lion to lie down with a lamb and not a wolf? And if two men lying in a bed make you think of sex, what about lions and lambs? Why read perversion into the quote you aren’t familiar with and not into the popular saying you want to be in the Bible?

      God created wolves. He also created lions. One day, they will lie down with animals that in this age, they would eat.

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  8. You sre missing the whole point!!! We are taling about 2 different reslities or dimensions. You can go back to the days of Jesus and had they Chick fila, it woukd still be spelled the same. We concur. But if I come to u from an alternate dimension I will have valid memories of it being spelled CHIC FILA. The Mendela effect is not about going back in time in this dimension to make changes. It is about shifting a group of people into another reality that – because of different events cause us to have valid memories thar conflict with your reality. Therefore consider your debunking debunked.

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    • Well I’m grateful that I am in the normal dimension. I wonder how they picked the people who are in the alternate dimension? Sounds like mind control to me.

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    • Thanks Julie, you took the words right outta my mouth.. plus IF we went BACK to our dimension, it would STILL be messed up from the changes that have occurred there while we’ve been missing. So unfortunately, we have to shift THIS reality now because (since there are in an INFINITE amount of parallel universes) who knows how many other people are from different realities who currently co-exist with us and are highly confused amongst the rest. Never mind the fact that our anatomy has changed, placed on a new earth (continental movements), CERN, LIGOS, AI, extraterrestrials, malevolent entities (Satan) from 3rd/4th/5th dimensions (NOT referring to SPACIAL dimensions), GOD/LORD/X- particles, Gravitational waves, Saturn’s hexagonal vortex.. (eh, you get the picture) but we must adapt and help raise the frequency/vibrations/chakras of humanity to eventually/hopefully place us (depending on the consciousness of the individual) in a better reality.

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      • And you obviously can’t see that some of the points that I make are valid. Please go to Chick-Fil-A or JCPenney’s and talk to a manager to see if their name changed. How is it that ya’ll can’t see simple proofs that not everything that is attributed to the Mandela Effect is real? Filter the fluoride out of your water people!

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        • David, this statement: “Please go to Chick-Fil-A or JCPenney’s and talk to a manager to see if their name changed” shows that you don’t understand what the Mandela Effect theory is. A manager, or anyone else, would not know if the names changed because they wouldn’t have changed for them. It is a theory that is inherently unprovable. You keep arguing about altering timelines. It has nothing to do with time.

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          • Well Marcus, the challenge is that people who believe in the Mandela Effect are proclaiming that the names changed, that their reality was changed. That is contrary to your explanation.

            And besides that, there are not some managers whose reality is that it is spelled one way, and other managers whose reality is that it is spelled the other way.

  9. One cannot prove nor disprove the Mandela effect. The whole premise behind the phenomenon is our reality has somehow changed so it doesn’t matter how far back in time you look, it will always say “Berenstain,” “Chick-Fil-A,” “Febreze,” and so on. Your comment about how people would’ve noticed the Chick-Fil-A change, they have, what do you think this whole commotion is about? Simply saying, “Your memories are wrong, it’s all a ‘psyop,’ and you are being misled by Satan,” is dismissive and shows lack of insight into something many of us are experiencing. This is far from claiming the earth is flat, like many so-called debunkers are likening it to.

    I have a very, very hard time believing that the KJV translators would add in anachronisms (bottle and corn/ears of corn – CORN was still a brand new crop in Europe) as well as adding in the words “men” and “women” in Luke 17:34-35 when they weren’t there in the Greek, especially the outrageous Luke 17:34 insinuating a homosexuality. The KJV has also always been known to use more antiquated language and the harder of the translations to read. Why would they leave out wineskin in favor of bottle yet the NIV (!!) of all translations uses wineskin?

    Here is what I know: Jesus was the Word made flesh (John 1:14), and the single most important message of the Bible being John 3:16. Other parts of the Bible outside of the message of salvation have been tampered with in the past, look at the book of Enoch, it’s completely been abandoned and treated like a fraud. There is still no explanation why the ancient Hebrew people would have included it in the dead sea scrolls, as well as the book being referenced in the Bible itself. Why is it not canonized? To assume that Satan can’t alter things (other than the message of salvation) for his own purpose is ignorant. The way I see things, the KJV is what many look up to as “THE” translation, but now that it includes what seems to be a homosexual man being raptured (Luke 17:34), could be Satan’s way of attempting to legitimize homosexuality to further pervert society.

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    • It has been changed. He is giving into the pressures of the flesh. Show me one movie or poster where Jesus is in a corn field. Jesus did not say the stream would beat vehemently against the house. For real people. If you are not immersed in the KJV than you really are guessing. Time is short, repent He is showing us that the great deception is coming soon.

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    • There is no mention of any relationship between the two ‘men’ other than one of proximity. In many poorer countries it is not surprising to find a whole family sharing a bed. I think the whole point of this passage is to say that people will disappear suddenly.
      Corn was the generic term for a single seed of certain plants, as wheat, rye, and barley.
      Bottles are just a hollow vessel of glass, wood, leather or other material, with a narrow mouth, for holding and carrying liquors, not only glass alone.

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  10. What about Luke 17:34? 2 men lying in the save bed?!!! My Bibles never said that!! Call it Psyop all you want but things HAVE CHANGED… And I ain’t trying to credit the enemy with nothing, I know Jesus still on the throne but if we just say Psyop for every instance(there’s ALOT of them), we’re deceiving ourselves…

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    • 2 men lying in the save bed?” Is that what they supposedly changed it to? My KJV says “I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.” Please let me know.

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    • YES. I cannot stand the “IT’S A PSYOP” everything mentality. Luke 17:34 is also what caused me to realize something is not right here. There is no excuse for that being in the Bible, it goes against scripture and it is unbelievable that people who claim to believe in the supernatural (God IS supernatural), but they refuse to accept that supernatural things can happen in this world. The Egyptians were able to cast magic (Exodus 7:8-11), fallen angels and Satan have power in this world. The author of this article did not debunk anything, you can’t debunk something that you cannot prove nor disprove. Something is afoot here and I feel there is a reason the Bible warns us of the great delusions.

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      • Thank you for your comment. Nothing was debunked. I have an excellent memory. Things have clearly been changed. Many people are too afraid to see it. The lords words are written on my heart and I’m aware of things being altered.

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        • Here’s what I would submit to you. It seems to be a Facebook and YouTube phenomenon. Nobody in the real world is complaining about the J.C. Penney and Chick-Fil-A names being changed. Nobody is complaining that the Ford logo was changed.

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          • Hi David.
            I have tried talking to my wife about the changes which for me go way beyond just bible changed. But she won’t or can’t understand thinks im mad. I think God has given some of us the ability to see and others not.

        • Yes… Thank you for reassuring me that I as well have different memories. I Trust in God and whatever is going on doesn’t matter because we know the truth

          Like my grandpa would say
          .. Be prepared so you won’t be scared…
          ..

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    • This is John Gills commentary on Luke 17: 34:
      there shall be two men in one bed; this is said agreeably to the time, the night before mentioned, that being the time to be in bed, at rest and asleep; for they that sleep, sleep in the night; and still suggests the security the people of the Jews would be in, at the time of their destruction. The word “men” is not in the text, it is only, “there shall be two in one bed”; and may as well be understood of a man and his wife, since it is not so usual for two men to lie in one bed; and this the rather more strongly expresses the distinguishing providence of God in saving one, and suffering the other to be taken and lost: the words may be rendered, “there shall be two upon one couch”: that is, sitting together at supper, which was also in the night season: it was the custom of the ancients to sit upon beds, or couches, at meals; and they had a bed, or couch, which held two persons only, and was called Biclinium (h): and so this likewise intimates, that the destruction of the Jews would be at a time when they were thoughtless of it, and were eating and drinking, as in the days of Noah and of Lot…

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    • I have a untouched version of the bible the original cambridge KJV 1611 edition that is the best form of the Bible i have ever been blessed to have found UNTOUCHED AND UNALTERED it says clearly.

      Luke:
      33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
      34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
      35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
      36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
      37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

      This verse in whole is talking about when Jesus Christ returns to this earth on the clouds after the tribulation. 2 men lying in bed is talking about homosexuality will be accepted in the world. And for people who use this verse to try and prove the rapture BEFORE the tribulation (THERE IS NO RAPTURE THERE IS ONLY JESUS SECOND COMING, which is after the tribulation or as you could call it, judgment) the rapture believers say because it says one is taken one is left. Its actually talking about being saved or not saved. Look again.
      33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

      Please message me for anything whatsoever OR for help on getting your hands on this PURE UNTOUCHED version of the King James Bible from 1611!

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  11. David, I have to agree that it’s a PSYOP. The only thing I disagree with is the Berenstein Bears. I’ve only found 2 proofs, The Simpsons episode, and an old TV Guide. It seems the name was changed after the death of the Berensteins.

    Anyway, Here’s my take on it after speaking with some other Iron:
    Who starts their journey with God reading the KJV? No one I know. We all start reading the “easier” versions and then work our way into the deeper, interlinears and concordance, which usually goes hand-in-hand with the KJV. We remember things from the NIV that were never written in the KJV.

    The latest that twisted my mind was: Denarius-Penny and Grain-Corn.

    I know that I know that I know Denarius……but that’s exactly what the NIV said.
    I know that I know that I know Grain….but that’s exactly what the NIV said.
    NOT THE KJV.
    And there’s an explanation. Corn may not have existed as we know it, but back in KJ day, they used the word corn to describe any type of grain. The corn we know, was called Indian Corn, and was eventually turned into just ‘corn’

    So I do believe that this is something that is meant to deceive.
    By taking advantage of common mismemories. Now, that said, If Genesis starts saying Apple, then I will certainly believe stuff is being changed!

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    • Hello Chalimar! The Simpsons has been used many times for disinformation, so their spelling the name wrong doesn’t prove anything. As for the misspelling in the TV Guide, mistakes happen.

      Great information on the Denarius-Penny and Grain-Corn!

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      • The British, if I understand correctly call maize ‘corn.’ Corn used to be a generic word for grain. Europeans did not originally have ‘Indian corn’ (maize). When the explorers came to the New World, they encountered the crop. So ‘corn’ was some kind of word for ‘grain’ in their vocabulary. We read about a ‘corn of wheat’ that falls to the ground and dies.

        For Americans, the word ‘corn’ changed in meaning to refer specifically to ‘Indian corn.’ They dropped the word ‘Indian.’ The Brits called it maize.

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    • Even if it does change, we are not to worry about it. Whatever deceptions come our way we need to look to God and put our faith, trust and belief in Jesus. I believe the author did a good job of debunking but pray to be undecieved and stay in the word and ask the lord for the direction he wants you to go in life. Following the spirit and obeying God are what’s important. You can be sure that since this happened more crazy stuff will be on the horizon soon. Walk with Jesus and you will be fine 🙂

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    • Re:
      “It seems the name was changed after the death of the authors.”

      No, it doesn’t seem that way — because it isn’t that way. Long the authors wrote children’s books, back in the 1950s and 1960s, they had a regular cartoon column for McCALL’S MAGAZINE, along with numerous successful books — books of cartoons for adults, not for children — and every one of those 1950s/1960s publications, too, gives the authors’ names as “STAN & JAN BERENSTAIN” with an A. Here is the cover of one of their books from that time: http://marciaarichards.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/its-all-in-the-family-cartoon.jpg — we may assume that, at the time they wrote it, they had not yet died. 😉 (Seriously: Stan Berenstain died in 2005, Jan Berenstain died in 2012, and the series was continued fir a while by their son Mike Berenstain, who is stull alive and who has always spelled it Berenstain like his parents.)

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    • No, the name was already “BERENSTAIN” during the authors’ lives, because it appears as the authors’ surname even on the more “adult” cartoon books that they did before switching over to kiddy-lit with the Bears.

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    • I started reading the KJV Bible as a babe, and I remember the stated verses being different than they currently are. I’m not confused or lying – it is (was) wineskins, not bottles…… just to name one example.

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      • I too remember wineskins. I remember asking what was a wineskins & possibly looking it up. Had it been bottles…I wouldn’t have wondered. I don’t know what version of Holy Bible it was however. If its not in any version…thatd proof it has changed

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  12. I believe you have done a good job at debunking the Mandela Effect. But could you explain why Luke 19:27 seems to command us to kill non believers when I know it says to love our enemies in Matthew 5:44?

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    • Hey Brandon. Here is Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible for Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible
      “Those – enemies – bring hither – the Jews, whom I shall shortly slay by the sword of the Romans.”

      John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible for Luke 19:27
      But those mine enemies, Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves:

      So when you look back to the 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy in Daniel 9, it foretold that the temple, the city and the Jews, would be desolated, because they would deliver Messiah up to be killed.

      In Matthew 23 Messiah berated the Jewish leaders and cast woes on them, telling them that the righteous blood of the prophets would be poured out on them, as they would have Messiah killed, and they would persecute the disciples.

      All of this was fulfilled from 66-70 A.D., when 1.1 million Jews died in and around Jerusalem, from famine, pestilence, infighting, suicide, crucifixion and by the Roman sword

      Here is a Daniel 12 study that talks about that time of great tribulation. http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/daniel-12-prophecy-deception/

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      • David likes to quote commentaries on this page.
        All that has taken place is that Satan and his minions have travel back in time to effect the out come of Gods creation. Satan realized that by going back to change the written word it would give him and his followers the only chance at victory of Jesus and his Father.
        Gods gave a warning at the end of Revelations ( yes it is with a ‘s, less I regress) that “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
        We must now reorder you understanding of what has taken place with the “Mandela Effect”. We are watching the last grasp of the generational Sumerian and Babylonian (read fallen angles) families taht rule us, try to stop the revolt of the enslave people. With the advent of the internet the masses have access to historical records like never before. Searchers have uncovered that we have been living in a world not as we see it and understand it to be. But a dark and evil world run by generational sociopaths and their Satanic cult. They put “the love of money is the root of all evil” before all living forms of life on this planet. Just remember that God is in control, and saints hang on, it is going to be ruff going from here on out.
        So as for David, the fact that that the commentaries follow the changes that we see is just more proof that the changes had be made more than 500 years ago. The writers of the commentaries were just doing their job accurately and with out any foreknowledge of the change made by Satan’s minions. So for a fool to try to convince us that nothing has taken place and he can prove it by quoting commentaries, is just that, a fool. We need to here from David about his fruit and not just his hot breath and inter writings. He is just a wolf in sheep’s clothing. His father is a liar also.

        Tom V.

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        • It’s fine to disagree with my explanation Tom. You’ve offered your perspective, I disagree.

          Like I said before, if I’m wrong, then I’m deceived on this matter; but I am not a liar and I am not a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Because you deem it necessary to make these accusations, and to proclaim that my “father is a liar also“, I will not approve any further comments from you.

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          • Cmon ET home phone. My brain is not that fried. All these things are happening now right at the outset of quantum technology.

        • Isaiah 11:6 most certainly did state, “And the lion will lay with the lamb and a little child shall lead them.” I searched all 8 of my Bibles and knew I grew up reading it. Called a friend who has a bible that reads just what I quoted.
          Whoever posted this sight has never read indepth or they would know the facts! DONT LIE ABOUT MY MESSIAH!

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          • So if your friend has a Bible that reads “lion will lay with the lamb” then that would mean that nothing was changed in that Bible, yes? What version of the Bible is it?

          • When I looked up the 1956 KJV online it says wolf not lion. If someone has photo of the verse saying Lion and Lamb could they add it please. These translations are troubling without it being the mandella effect. For someone reading bible for first time Isaiah 34-35 could definitely be taken very wrong.

        • Isaiah 11:6 most certainly did say and the lion shall lay with the lamb and a child will lead them. I looked for this verse and 8 of my Bibles and could not find it then I called a friend who has her Bible from 1956 King James and it has this verse in it. So you are most definitely wrong.

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          • So you’re saying that a 1956 King James Bible has ‘the lion shall lay with the lamb’? If that is true, what changed in that Bible? Is not the argument that King James Bibles were changed to have the wolf instead of the lion?

        • Hi Tom. Are you referring to a book called Fallen Angels? Do you have the authors name. I seem to be only able to find a book of that title being a novel of vietnam,

          Cheers
          Craig

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        • Thank you Tom, I believe you are right about this (this they may not have traveled back in time. It’s possible to alter reality using quantum computers). However they did it, it is a direct sign indeed that those with eyes to see will believe. Mind still blown.

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      • Why don’t you read the whole parable– the words of a king in a parable. Jesus was telling a story about a King. Now, the story is a parable, and people will say the king represents Jesus or God the Father, and there will be a final judgment.

        Some verses in the Bible don’t make sense unless you read the whole section.

        You could take ‘….Judas went and hanged himself’ and another verse about something different ‘go thou and do likewise’ and try to argue the Bible encourages suicide. But that would be ridiculous. The context doesn’t support that interpretation.

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    • Read the whole passage, Luke 19:11-27. It is The Parable of the Ten Minas, just a story that Christ used to teach a lesson, and not actual orders from Christ to the disciples. It is taken out of context and thus it makes it seem like Christ ordered this, but it is not that at all. Read the whole passage.

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    • Recall that Luke 19 is a PARABLE — Jesus is telling a story, and theLuke 19:27 is a line of dialogue in that story: a line giving the words of the etory’s central character (the nobleman who went into the far country, came back, and was angry with a serving who hadn’t invested the nobleman’s money). Deciding that the line about killing enemies is a commandment of Jesus is about like deciding that George Lucas told Luke Skywalker “I am your father” — it’s confusing the author of a story with a character in the story.

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      • It’s irrelevant if that was part of a parable or not. He never said that, he said show them to me, not slay them before me.

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        • The supposed Mandela Effect has exposed people’s lack of understanding of Scripture. Messiah was clearly talking about the wicked Jews, those who would reject Him and deliver Him up to be killed, “But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.” Luke 19:14

          Messiah exacted His vengeance against that wicked generation of Jews by coming in the clouds of judgment against them, sending the Roman army, the people of the prince of Daniel 9, to slay them.

          This fulfilled the Parable of the Wicked Vinedressers, when the wicked tenants killed the son of the vineyard owner.

          But when the vinedressers saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.’ So they cast him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and destroy those vinedressers and give the vineyard to others.” Luke 20:14-15

          This fulfilled Messiah’s words of Woe to the scribes and the Pharisees.

          “Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.” Matthew 23:34-36

          The Jewish historian Josephus records that the Romans killed hundreds of thousands of Jews by the sword in 70 A.D.

          Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible on Luke 19:27
          Those – enemies – bring hither – the Jews, whom I shall shortly slay by the sword of the Romans.

          John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible on Luke 19:27
          But those mine enemies, Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves:

          The Olivet Discourse was about the desolation of the temple, the city of Jerusalem and the Jews. http://theolivetdiscourse.com/

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    • Exactly! This is highly disturbing. I read thru everything in the Gospels before, looking for a sign of falsehood in the teachings ie violence, greed, revenge on the part of Jesus.

      I even stopped reading the Book of Mormon because in the beginning of the book it had God claiming his followers should kill a passed out drunkard. No way!

      Yet now the Bible says “slay them before me!!??” Along with lion to wolf & sparrows (or birds of the field) to ravens.. what the heck is going on here & why aren’t more Christians disturbed by this..??

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