The end times deception study will show how what Jonathan Kleck teaches opposes the Word of God, which makes him a false prophet.
Jonathan Kleck has a very popular YouTube channel and a radio show. He sounds very authoritative, he cites scripture, he references the Hebrew and Greek, and if people don’t know the Scriptures and their proper context well, then they can be misled.
That said, any sound Christian should have enough discernment to know that the declarations about his salvation story and who he is, should cause red flags to go up.
Jonathan also goes by the name of “Bene Ha’Elohim,” a prophet of God. He claims to be the spirit of a fallen angel inside a human body. A fallen angel is a demon, so Jonathan is telling you that he’s demon-possessed.
He claims that the Archangel Michael led him to salvation by praying the Lord’s Prayer, which is not a salvation prayer.
He claims that Michael had him pray the Catholic Hail Mary, which is an abomination to the Father, which I can’t imagine that Michael would ever do.
He says that God told him that all humans are part reptilian, with the seed of Satan in us.
Jonathan claims that God has chosen him to be the only one to whom He (the Lord) will reveal the identity of the antichrist. The antichrist beast, the Popes of the Roman Catholic Church, were identified by the saints over a 1,000 years ago.
On his YouTube channel he uses an image of Egyptian Pharoah Akhenaten and and his wife Nefertiti. Would a prophet of God really use these images to represent himself?
He said that on 11/11/11, the Hoover dam would be blown up, but it didn’t happen.
As I watch his videos, I will cover the main points that he gets wrong, which are contrary to the Word of God, and the historical fulfillment of prophecy.
If you watch a video that keeps the camera on him, you will see that he is twitchy, he jerks around, like he is possessed.
He claims to be a fallen angel in a human body. I do believe that he may have a satanic entity in him.
Review of the video, Oh My LORD,,IT IS Coming (Part 1), posted on 06/08/18
Jonathan says that it’s a 100% confirmation that locust from the pit are coming soon, pointing to the fulfillment of the 5th Trumpet.
Well, he may be being guided, but it’s by the wrong spirit; because the 5th Trumpet of Revelation has already been fulfilled. It represents the Lord using the Arabian (Mohammedan) army against the Western Roman Empire from 612-762 A.D., which is 150 years (5 months = 150 days). They wore turbans (crowns of gold); they had beards (faces of men); they had long hair like women; they wore chain-mail (breast-plates of iron); and they were fierce (teeth of lions). The falling star was Mohammed, the smoke out of Satan’s bottomless pit of lies is the Qur’an.
This man is a deceiver.
Read Revelation 9 – 5th Trumpet
Review of the video “LOCUSTS (((ARE))) Coming//Wanna see Proof”, posted on 06/03/18
Jonathan proclaims that the 5th trumpet represents locust type creatures, which will attack people in the future.
The truth is that the 5th Trumpet of Revelation has already been fulfilled. It represents the Lord using the Arabian (Mohammedan) army against the Western Roman Empire from 612-762 A.D., which is 150 years (5 months = 150 days). They wore turbans (crowns of gold); they had beards (faces of men); they had long hair like women; they wore chain-mail (breast-plates of iron); and they were fierce (teeth of lions). The falling star was Mohammed, the smoke out of Satan’s bottomless pit of lies is the Qur’an.
Read Revelation 9 – 5th Trumpet
Review of the video “You KNOW He’s the Antichrist”, posted on 11/22/16
Jonathan Kleck is proclaiming the President Obama is the antichrist of Revelation.
Come on people! The Protestant Reformers all properly identified the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, as the antichrist beast of Revelation. Read Historical Witnesses Against Antichrist
The sea beast of Revelation 13 is the Popes of the Roman Catholic Church, who rose to power after Elohim caused the Roman Empire to collapse. They reigned for 1,260 years (1,260 prophetic days) from 538-1798 A.D.
They worked relentlessly to eliminate the Two Witnesses, the Word of God and the Church of Christ, both of which testified that salvation is by faith in Christ’s atoning sacrifice, not by works through the Papal Church; and that the Papal Church is the beast of Revelation, the Little Horn of Daniel, and the Pope, the Son of Perdition.
Its reign ended when the Pope was imprisoned by the Jesuits in 1798 A.D. Read Revelation 13 – Roman Sea Beast
The Popes are still around, but they are not in power; as the Jesuit General, the Black Pope, the earth beast of Revelation 13, controls the Vatican. Read Revelation 13 – Roman Earth Beast
Jonathan’s false prophecy explanations serve to deflect blame away from the Pope and Jesuit General, the antichrist and the false prophet.
Review of the video “Here Comes The ABOMINATION”, posted on 12/04/16.
Jonathan Kleck is pointing to a futuristic ‘abomination of desolation’; which is wrong.
Luke 21:20 clearly told us what it was, an army surrounding Jerusalem to desolate it; which was fulfilled in 66 A.D. Read The Abomination Of Desolation
That directly lines up with the prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27, which said that the ‘people of the prince‘, Roman Prince Titus, would desolate the city and temple; which Jewish historian Josephus witnessed and documented. Read The People Of The Prince Of Daniel 9
Daniel 12 describes the 3 1/2 year period, from when the abomination of desolation would occur (in 66 A.D.), until the Roman siege was over (in 70 A.D.) Read Daniel 12 Desolation Fulfillment
In Messiah’s Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24) He clearly proclaimed that all of the warnings that He gave would be fulfilled in that generation, in the generation of the Jews who rejected Him and delivered Him up to be killed. In the generation of the Jews who proclaimed “let His blood be on us and our children“.
And so it was, as 1.1 million Jews died in and around Jerusalem; from famine, pestilence, infighting, suicide, crucifixion, and by the Roman sword.
Review of the video “Rise of the Second Beast in Babylon the Great” (Video #10 for Be4TheFire.com)
In this video Jonathan proclaims that Barack Obama is the second beast of Revelation 13, who has risen to power seemingly out of nowhere. And that is completely wrong. Obama is just a servant of Rome.
The earth beast of Revelation is the Jesuits of Rome, who took control of the Vatican in the 18th century. Prior to that, the sea beast of Revelation 13, the antichrist Popes of Rome had reigned from 1,260 years, from 538-1798 A.D.
The Jesuit General, the Black Pope, controls the Vatican and the White Pope, and is using it to gather the world under his power. Read Revelation 13 – Roman Earth Beast
Once again, Jonathan’s explanation deflects blame away from the Popes and Jesuits Generals of Rome. Read the home page of this website and you will see that they fulfill Revelation prophecy as the Antichrist and False Prophet.
Review of the video “The Son of Perdition: Barack Hussein Obama” *FULL PRESENTATION* by Jonathan Kleck and Clay Eudaly
In this video Jonathan proclaims that Barack Obama is the Son of Perdition of 2 Thessalonians 2.
This is false, as it is the Popes of Rome, who rose to power after the last Roman Emperor (the restrainer) was removed from power in 476 A.D. Read this study to see Scriptural and historical proof Son Of Perdition Of 2 Thessalonians 2
Once again, Jonathan’s explanation deflects blame away from the Popes of Rome.
Review of the video, “The Unrolled Scroll”, Here Comes DEATH, “Shout it from the Roof Tops”
Here is the link to his video where he makes the false prophecy statements.
The Unrolled Scroll, Here Comes DEATH Guaranteed !!! https://youtu.be/3Nv5Jf_eoFQ
A good part of the video is based on Daniel, 12, which he says is talking about the end of the world and great tribulation, the time of jacob’s trouble.
This is false teaching, as the prophecy in Daniel 12 was fulfilled from 66-70 A.D., when the first division of the Roman army surrounded Jerusalem surrounded the city, which was the Abomination of Desolation.
1,290 days later, the Roman army flooded the city, just as Daniel 9 said they would and they stopped temple sacrifice and killed hundreds of thousands of Jews by the Roman sword, and 97,000 were taken captive and sold as slaves.
He says the word’ trouble’ in Daniel 12:1 means a female rival. He says that Mary is the female rival. But that is not the only explanation of the word, and saying that it is Mary is totally out of context with the prophecy.
The Hebrew says that it means adversary, adversity, affliction, anguish, distress, tribulation and trouble, which the Jewish people faced from 66-70 A.D.
He says that the ‘daily sacrifice‘ which will be taken away is Christians, erroneously citing 1 Peter 2:5 and Romans 12:1.
The ‘daily sacrifice’ was the temple sacrifice, which was stopped when the Roman army flooded the city in 70 A.D., 1,290 days after the Abomination of Desolation, the first Roman division, surrounded the city.
He says that “And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book” in Daniel 12:1, is the referring to the book of death.
It is referring to the book of Life, not death. Daniel is telling us that those who are saved, who accepted Jesus as their Messiah, will be delivered. Josephus, the Jewish historian, tells us that all the followers of Christ escaped Judah and none were killed.
He says that Daniel 12:9 is declaring that the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
It’s referring back to the prophecy in Daniel 9, which said that those who reject the Messiah would be desolated, which happened in 70 A.D. So the time of the end is the time of the end of the latter days of the Jews.
He applied Isaiah 29:11 to saying the same thing as Daniel about a 12 sealed book.
It’s merely saying that prophecies had been revealed to the House of Israel, but they don’t read them to understand them, so they are like a sealed book. Case in point. Today, Jews forbid one another to read the Gospels. It’s like a sealed book to them. But it’s available to read for people whom the Spirit is opening their heart.
Regarding Isaiah 29:15-16, he says that the secret is that things will be turned upside down in the end times.
God is speaking about the House of Israel’s perversion of all things. They had no just views of truth. They deemed mere formality to be all that was required. They attempted to conceal their plans even from Yahweh; and everything in the opinions and practice of the nation had become perverted and erroneous.
He says that this is the reason that Peter was crucified upside down. He says that Peter was given the key and if you turn it upside down, it opens the door.
He says that Peter is the rock on which the church would be built, which is the same doctrine of the antichrist Roman Catholic Church.
He confused the name of Peter and the word ‘rock’.
Peter means a large stone. Petros a (piece of) rock (larger than 3037); as a name, Petrus, an apostle:—Peter, rock. Compare 2786. a large stone
On this rock means a mass of rock, pointing to Jesus. Petra a (mass of) rock (literally or figuratively):—rock.
In talking about the rock, Jesus was talking about Himself, the Christ, which Peter just proclaimed.
He says that in Matthew 7:24 “I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock,” that the house is built upon Peter.
Once again the word for rock is Petra a (mass of) rock (literally or figuratively):—rock, which points to Jesus
He says that another race of beings sowed their see in humanity. And that we are avatars for another race of beings, called Satan and the fallen angels.
At the end of the video he says that “the rapture is coming and the daily sacrifice will be taken away at the moment all hell breaks loose.”
He is saying that there is a pre-tribulation rapture before the 1,290 days of Daniel 12, the supposed 3 1/2 years of Great Tribulation.
Since Daniel 12 was fulfilled during 3 1/2 years, from 66-70 A.D., we know he is teaching false prophecy.
Since the ’42 months’ and ‘time and times and half a time’ in Revelation 12 and 13 were fulfilled from 538-1798 A.D, we know that is now a future 3 1/2 year tribulation period.
Review of his video Thy Kingdom Come ( Part 6 – CERN & The Locust Army) Sep 6, 2015
Jonathan opened by saying “you either believe me or not, if it’s right, you can count on the rest of it being right.”
Well as you can see above, he is wrong about many prophecy explanations.
And in this video he says that CERN will open up the bottomless pit and release the demon locust of the 5th Trumpet of Revelation.
Once again he is pointing to a future fulfillment of prophecy, when the truth is that the 5th Trumpet has already been fulfilled historically, as Messiah sent army after army against the Roman Empire.
The 5th Trumpet represents the Lord using the Arabian (Mohammedan) army against the Western Roman Empire from 612-762 A.D., which is 150 years (5 months = 150 days). They wore turbans (crowns of gold); they had beards (faces of men); they had long hair like women; they wore chain-mail (breast-plates of iron); and they were fierce (teeth of lions). The falling star was Mohammed, the smoke out of Satan’s bottomless pit of lies is the Koran.
Read a verse by verse explanation and watch a video about the fulfillment by clicking on Revelation 9 – 5th Trumpet
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dear etd:
this message is to pray that your eyes, ears, mind and heart be opened toward jonathan kleck. he has been granted a gift from THE LORD JESUS CHRIST that so far surpasses your understanding that the only words that can describe your blindness is ‘tragic’. how tragic it is going to be at your JUDGMENT, when you find out how horribly wrong you are, and ALL the people you have deceived and sent in the wrong direction.
this makes my multiple attempt to try to help you to understand.
i tell you the truth, if you do not stop and get wisdom from THE LORD revealing your false understandings, repent, and try to make~up for the damage you are trying to cause, then BE WARNED! i, hereby, lovingly, inform you that if i see this site up beyond a reasonable period of time, beginning right now, then with the authority JESUS CHRIST gives me, know that i shall shake the dust from my feet of you as a testimony against you.
read Matthew 10:14~15; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11 as to what your JUDGMENT shall be from THE LORD.
James, thanks for the warning; but my eyes, mind and heart have been opened, to prophecy fulfillment; which is how I know that what Jonathan Kleck teaches is false. We can’t both be right, as what we teach is contrary to each other. I know what I’ve been shown. The great theologians of the 16th-20th century taught the same thing as I do. I pray for eye salve, that you can see all truth. Blessings to you, David
dear etd:
as a born~again evangelist for JESUS CHRIST for 17years, THE LORD has given to me the discernment needed for this way of service. mostly, it is for spiritual warfare. your article is a classic example of where THE LORD’S gift applies.
after measuring what you have said, and then listening to multiple videos of jonathan kleck,..here are my findings:
according to THE LORD JESUS CHRIST’S voice.. CLEARLY, and without a doubt, jonathan kleck is EXACTLY who he says he is; and, CLEARLY, and without a doubt, it is !you! that is FALSE.
most [not ALL, but most] all of your statements and BIBLICAL interpretations are so wrong, that it is not even worth it to list them all because my experience in evangelism knows that your words only reveal the voice of somebody that would not listen anyways. your words reveal that you are, either, a very immature christian who has no authority to judge a very mature christian, or, you are of a false christian-cult that has an agenda to bear false-witness against true, children~of~GOD.
so that you get a taste of proof: you did not even listen to jon’s testimony carefully. the angel did not tell him to say a ‘hail mary’ for the reason you said.. the point the angel made was showing jon that IT WAS WRONG to say a ‘hail mary’ because jon said, ‘he NOW KNEW IT WAS WRONG’. THE BIBLE says that a person ‘who cannot hear’. as you, is one of the most salient characteristics of a ‘non child~of~GOD’.
you completely miss the ENTIRE POINT jonathan makes about being of ‘fallen-angels’ and ‘reptilian’. again, a person ‘who cannot see’, as you, is one of the most salient characteristics of a ‘non child~of~GOD’.
your repetitive claims that PROPHECIES THAT HAVE NOT YET OCCURRED
have already occurred, and that you do not know the true difference between the anti-CHRIST/false prophet/pope roles in ENDTIMES, further proves, again, either your falsehood or ignorance of what you are talking about.
THE LORD verified to me all of what jonathan has said; you just do not understand it. for example, ‘the abomination of desolation’: whereas, you are right to say that it is a literal abomination within a literal TEMPLE, i agree that jonathan overlooked that, but, there IS a ‘spiritual abomination of desolation’ as well; which, is precisely what jonathan accurately explained, and what COMPLETELY WENT OVER YOUR HEAD.
i could go on and on with every point.
you need to retract this false criticism, repent, and ask THE LORD for wisdom. this is a loving warning to you.
BEWARE! before you begin questioning me,..here is how you know WHO has THE TRUTH: it is the one WITH THE POWER; and i just gave you THE POWER: Matthew 10:14~15; II Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9~11.
read these verses as a warning to you should you think that you do not have to listen to me.
prayers and blessings to you to listen.
Well James, I prove the fulfillment of Revelation on this website http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com and that the antichrist beast is the Popes of Rome, and the false prophet is the Jesuit General. I prove that most of Revelation has been fulfilled, and that we are in the 6th bowl judgment.
So by that, I know that what Jonathan Kleck teaches about the fulfillment of Revelation is false.
Easy as that bro! 🙂
dear david:
thank you for responding.. i always respect when people take the time to answer or respond.
my experience as an evangelist for many years, however, gives me a forewarning whenever i experience these kinds of conversations
[and i have had countless like this].. these kinds of conversations ALWAYS are as a result that the person is either searching for truth, or a deceiver that just likes to debate to debate. it becomes very cleat which in a very short period of
time. so,..i will give you the benefit~of~the~doubt..
you claim “that most of Revelation has been fulfilled, and that we are in the 6th bowl judgment”.. then you should not be afraid to answer the following:
according to Daniel 9:27, a covenant will be made for one week; but in the middle of the week, sacrifice and offering will be brought to an end’.. when do you claim that this happened?
James, here is the study about the covenant of the 70th week of Daniel. The 70th week was fulfilled from 27-34 A.D. Messiah died on Passover 31 A.D., which ended the need for temple sacrifices, as He is the one-time sacrifice for our sins. http://70thweekofdaniel.com/the-covenant-of-the-70th-week-of-daniel/
dear david:
this is my second time replying..
these kinds of conversations ALWAYS are as a result that the person is either
searching for truth, or a deceiver that just likes to debate to debate. it becomes very clear which in a very short period of time.
you claim “that most of Revelation has been fulfilled, and that we are in the 6th bowl judgment”.. then you should not be afraid to answer the following:
according to Daniel 9:27, a covenant will be made for one week; but in the middle of the week, sacrifice and offering will be brought to an end’.. when do you claim that this happened?
James, I answered your previous comment. I took the day off yesterday to go hiking, so I’m just catching up on comments. Here is the link to the 70th week of Daniel study series. http://70thweekofdaniel.com
overlooked that??? you must bekidding me man….you are not born again filled with the holy spirit if you write such a nonesense comment man….
I’ve come across this website a few times. I know Jonathan says don’t defend him ,but I feel I should let people know that because of him i turned my life over to Jesus Christ! I personally witnessed my evil half eating at the good half to the point where I confessed my sins and my Love to our Father who died on the cross for my sins the devil was using me and telling me it’s okay you will still be saved it’s only been a week but I’ve never felt better in my life I feel guilt and remorse for my sin but I also feel calm happy peace for the first time in my life . if I haven’t found Jonathan I would still be living a lie!
Well that is awesome that you came into a relationship with Messiah, through Jonathan! That said, he teaches false prophecy fulfillment explanations. Read this Bible Prophecy Made Easy prophecy fulfillment summary, and you will see that what Jonathan is teaching is false. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/bible-prophecy-made-easy/
I really question his original story in the hotel. It makes NO sense.
He stated he and his girlfriend had to hide out in a hotel because they were being chased down due to what he “uncovered”. BUT…..he had NOT yet opened the door and had NOT yet prayed with the stranger in the alley. He stated he wanted to just know the “truth”. Who is Jesus Christ. He had not yet been saved.
$100 Challenge, support the ministry.. that says it all Jonathan doesn’t ask for anything but postage to mail the DVDs it’s always about the money isn’t it you false prophets
Lovie, can you tell me what the $100 Challenge is about? What is the challenge?
As for allowing people to support this ministry, that doesn’t prove anything. It doesn’t prove that what is taught on this website is wrong. And Jonathan not asking for support doesn’t prove that he is right. The fact is that people can read, print and save, all of my studies, for free.
On his Here Comes The ABOMINATION video which was published on 12/04/16, he is pointing to a futuristic ‘abomination of desolation’; which is wrong, as Luke clearly told us what it was, the Roman army surrounding Jerusalem to desolate it; which was fulfilled in 66 A.D.
Like I said, he is a false prophecy teacher. Sadly, you don’t know prophecy fulfillment well enough to see that, so you are deceived by him.
I suggest that you read this study series, to see how the abomination of desolation already appeared. http://theolivetdiscourse.com
Jon speaks out of his flesh a lot, out of pride, and anger, resentment..He is given gifts of revelation and does hear directly, however Jon will never admit fault and is completely ignorant of a lot of things, thinking HE is the only one who has any gifting in Spirit.
Anyone who questions, or tries to correct anything, point out anything, he goes into defense mode, stubbornness, hard headedness and completely dominates any conversation, and a lot of time displays characteristics of Narcissism unaware that he is in hypocrisy. I cant even listen to him anymore, and his seemingly mindless following that are so far up his you know what makes me want to throw up. I know for a fact, Jon is a walking conduit, and his testimony is true, hes been severely jaded over the last several years coming from a place of EGO. “Alpha Male” I believe his health condition is a part of God allowing him to be afflicted because of his Sin and his flesh..”One mans opinion” He is brilliant and completely sold out to the Lord, he has given up his life and Multi Millions to do what God has instructed him to do. Pray for him, that he finds peace and for comfort, that his ego be revealed so he can walk in humility and admit his flaws. No one has it right except the Lord God himself!
Sir, After reading your commentary on Mr. Kleck I need to say that you’re doing pretty well in the ego department yourself. I can accept your critiquing of his teaching but you should not be critiquing the man. Please learn as a Christian to separate the person from the deed as you are sitting in judgment of a brother in Christ and I’m sure that’s way over your paygrade.
Kathy, this page has nothing to do with my ego. It has everything to do with showing how what Mr. Kleck is teaching about prophecy fulfillment is false.
How exactly am I ‘critiquing the man’?
J. Kleck may not be 100% correct but who is??? You David??? No… I didn’t see you revealing images hidden in the US money… if you are served a t-bone steak with all the fixin’s, do you eat the bone too??? Smh….
There’s one way to know if I’m 100% correct. Read my prophecy explanation studies and prove me wrong. Otherwise your opinion has no merit. SMH!!!
“Let God be True and every man a liar” David, that profession of “prove me wrong” is very arrogant and not wise..but ultimately what matters is that we Rejoice in Our Savior, Jesus Christ God in Flesh!..so I leave with this:
God Bless, Brother in Christ..may the Holy Spirit Guide You into All Truth, including that we are ALL FALLIBLE SINFUL HUMANS!
Is he teaching you that the entire 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week, when Messiah and His disciples confirmed with the Jews for seven years, that He is the promised Messiah who ratified the everlasting covenant as the Passover Lamb of Elohim? http://70thweekofdaniel.com/
Is he teaching you that the prophecies in the Olivet Discourse were fulfilled in the first century? http://theolivetdiscourse.com/
Is he teaching you the role that Islam and Muslims play in Bible prophecy fulfillment? http://christianitybeliefs.org/islam-in-bible-prophecy/
Is he teaching you that the Popes of Rome are the antichrist leader of the Roman Catholic Church?
Is he teaching you that the Jesuit General is the false prophet leader of earth beast of Revelation 13, the Jesuits of Rome?
Is he teaching you that the most of the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years; as Messiah and His saints have fought against the Satan-empowered Roman beast? http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/
The answer is no, he is not teaching most of those things, therefore his explanations about the prophecies are false.
It matters not how sincere he is, if his prophecy explanations are false, his followers are being deceived.
Good expose God bless.
However errors exist Barrack Obama is 1 beast Satans Son.
Johnathan Kleck is according to Bible, Gods Word, not true.
Fallen angels had sex with human women before and after flood of Noa and Nephilm were their offspring giants of old today it exist in millions of human hybrids nephilms shapeshifters and reptilians also.
However Satan never had sex with Eve and Cain is not Satans Child by DNA.
Of the few true belivers 8 Noa ones belongs to Christ we have pure human DNA from Christ and Noa etc.
Otherwise God bless.
Thank you for the article, I stumbled upon his YT channel a few days ago and thought WOW this man really has a gift, and I admittedly believed him until one of his long time followers and himself gave it away. A woman on a recent video had one eye symbolism in her picture and I asked her about it and she said she was a long time follower of JK and hadn’t really thought about it. Fishy right? Then I said not cool, she responded “Busted! Lol” as Jonathan says in many of his videos, the joke is on us, he’s MOCKING US! So then I was like WTF and God sent me to his website be4Thefire and I immediately clicked on the support button and what do I see ??? JK holding up an envelope with ONE EYE in the picture and his eye is DARKENED. I immediately knew God was exposing this false prophet for me. This is all happened just hours ago, I now feel MUCH RELIEF from those false teachings. Because you will only feel confused and feel like you don’t %100 understand everything now. That’s his goal to mislead you to confusion and fear. Although as with any false prophet he mixes in SOME TRUTH to make you believe. Be careful and just know Jesus loves you if you are a true seeker of the truth and know you are saved if you keep faith. God Bless all you. We are HUMANS not demon angel and God angel hybrids…
I thought that the nephilim were real? That woman says that angels didn’t mate with women to create giants, but it says so in Genesis. Unless she is meaning the holy angels and not fallen angels.
My understanding is that Genesis 6:2 is simply declaring that God’s set-apart people (sons of God), who were warned not to marry people of other races, saw the beautiful women of the other races, and they mated with them. It appears that they were a race of tall people, thus the giants reference.
It is not saying the fallen angels mated with women. Angels are not sons. Angels are created. They do not procreate.
Here is the study notes from the Reformers in the Geneva Bible regarding Genesis 6:2
That the (a)sons of God saw the daughters (b)of men that they were (c)fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
a. The children of the godly who began to degenerate.
b. Those that had wicked parents, as if from Cain.
c. Having more respect for their beauty and worldly considerations than for their manners and godliness.
Here is Matthew Poole’s Commentary on Genesis 6:2
Ver. 2. The sons of God; either,
1. Persons of greatest eminency for place and power, for such are called gods, and children of the Most High, Ps 82:6; where also they are opposed to men, Ge 6:7, i.e. to meaner men. And the most eminent things in their kinds are attributed to God, as cedars of God, all of God, &c. But it is not probable that the princes and nobles should generally take wives or women of the meaner rank, nor would the marriages of such persons be simply condemned, or at least it would not be mentioned as a crying sin, and a great cause of the deluge. Or rather,
2. The children of Seth and Enos, the professors of the true religion. For,
1. Such, and only such, in the common use of Scripture, are called the
sons and
children of God, as De 14:1; 32:19; Isa 1:2; 45:11; Ho 11:1; Lu 17:27, &c.
2. This title manifestly relates to Ge 4:26, where the same persons are said to be called by the name of the Lord, i.e. to be the sons and servants of God.
3. They are opposed to the daughters of men, the word men being here taken in an ill sense, for such as had nothing in them but the nature of men, which is corrupt and abominable, and were not sons of God, but foreigners and strangers to him, and apostates from him.
4. These unequal matches with persons of a false religion are every where condemned in Scripture as sinful and pernicious, as Ge 26:35; Ex 34:16; 1Ki 11:2-3; Ezr 9:12; Ne 13:23, &c.; Mal 2:11; 1Co 7:39; 2Co 6:14, and therefore are fitly spoken of here as one of the sins which brought the flood upon the ungodly world.
Saw, i.e. gazed upon and observed curiously and lustfully, as the sequel showeth,
the daughters of men, of that ungodly and accursed race of Cain.
They were fair, i.e. beautiful, and set off their beauty with all the allurements of ornaments and carriage; herein using greater liberty than the sons and daughters of God did or durst take, 1Pe 3:3; and therefore were more enticing and prevalent with fleshly-minded men. Either,
1. By force and violence, as the word sometimes signifies. Or rather,
2. By consent; for the sons of God were so few, in comparison of the wicked world, that they durst not take away their daughters by force; which also proves that they did not take them for harlots, but for wives.
They took them wives, possibly more than one for each of them, after the example of those wicked families into which they were matched; of all which they chose, i.e. loved and liked, as the word choosing is taken, Ps 25:12; 119:173; Isa 1:29; 42:1, compared with Mt 12:28. This is noted as the first error, that they did promiscuously choose wives, without any regard to their sobriety and religion, minding only the pleasing of their own fancies and lusts, not the pleasing and serving of their Lord and Maker, nor the obtaining of a godly seed, which was God’s end in the institution of marriage, Mal 2:15, and therefore should have been theirs too.
David,
Adam was a Son of God, in that he was directly Created, as are the Angels, and therefore all men are “sons of Adam” UNLESS We are Born-Again of the Spirit of God and Recieve that Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, Whom IS God in Flesh…do more rejoicing than accusing..God is not done with you, by far, but you must learn to repent as “let God Be True, and every man a liar”…Kleck claims to be a messenger and just that..a messenger..and affirms Jesus Christ as THE WAY, The Truth, and the Life…I am not defending him so much as I am warning you that your accusations at evasive and out of context….if
you wish to warn us of false prophets, *respectfully, do a better job..in that you do not take things out of context..
Praise Jesus Christ, Whom is God come in Flesh, and by His Holy Spirit I am born-again as a Child of God!
Thank you for all of your comments William! They help this study that exposes Jonathan rank better in Google search 🙂
I do believe that you are not seeing past one single book. God can show you truth any way that He chooses. He is SPIRIT, first, after all. I heard him speak to me in 2012-2013. So, I know his voice and I know when someone is truly following what the truth is. Jonathan Kleck has been chosen to warn the world.
Jonathan’s work is for those who will be saved, as for the haters, its over. I personally know for a FACT that what he is reporting is a FACT however I have 30+ years research the rest of you mostly will not have any reference and have to hope like heck you get the message. just think of a few things, light is reversed and images are not just reversed but also left to right, just like the shroud of Turin, a “photo negative” . the shroud deniers are thee dumbest folks on earth, in the Apocalypse Unsealed by pryse the Inverted LOGOS who is the incarnating ego , its you. man INVERTED. How about this folks, do you really think THIS is gods world? all death, war, total scum bags everywhere you look, NO this is not gods world which is made CRYSTAL clear in the bible, hey you want to know something, Jonathan is a sinner just like you and I, but he has reversed his lifestyle of sin and was chosen as a Shepard of those who would be lead INTO the kingdom! He is our pastor and leader he has seers defending him he doesn’t even know of and there are others, in 1996 I went from being in my living room to being in a great open space in the sky above desert oasis, moving from left to right or it was I moving I do not know, yes I was awake not a dream yes it was totally visual as far as i could see i was no longer in my living room, moving from left to right was a great pyramid with the all seeing eye spinning, yes this did happen yes this is real,no I had never seen that eye before! other than passing glance on the bill$ and I mean passing, I was just 23 at the time I had already had been seeking his name for my whole life and I had just asked God to reveal ALL things to me in my living room and I asked with an intensity I cannot explain except to say that it was divine and totally I asked to know EVERYTHING without exception and this event set off 5 months of INSANE visions not of that level but still great and revealing, I never know what the voice who spoke to me was talking about but it kept saying I had come closer to the truth than anyone since PETER! after listening and learning from Jonathan who later (after 1996 my visions) has far exceeded my ability to detect the truth in full form, our father has revealed in rest of the story in full detail !! to Jonathan, I am one of the few who knows for a fact. Much more was revealed to me in my 1996 visions which totally back Jonathan up 100% , did I mention that before his first video played the holy spirit had already revealed to me that his stuff would be full 100% truth! I knew before I watched him, and after watching WOW! I am normally a BIG critic if for no other reason than because truths revealed by seekers do not show the whole story or leave us wondering, not only does Jonathan’s work fit in perfectly with all else we have learned from 30+ years research but it shows the whole story and finishes the story for those of us who had portions of it, I do not know how many others there are who are seers but let me tell you what Jonathan is going through is NOT easy! I tasted a portion of it and I see him having the same experiences where UN deniable occurrences are happening to him over and over after hearing to do x y or z, this happen to me and still does! please remember that also Jonathan when you say others don’t know because there ARE others and they are your real BROTHERS and we LOVE you Jonathan! I believe Jonathan 100% !!! GO Jonathan, to the Haters, you are as Blind as a BAT! if you can learn the truth good.
This sounds like it was written by Jonathan. 😛 You claim that he teaches 100% truth, but he was wrong about the Hoover Dam, and his Bible prophecy fulfillment explanations are wrong. Ain’t no hate here bro, just the truth, which exposes the deceptions! This Bible Prophecy Made Easy summary study shows you all of the things that Jonathan, and others, are wrong about. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/bible-prophecy-made-easy/
1COR 8:2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know
Remember when Joseph Smith was given special glasses to read those special tablets by an angel? I question anyone who claims to be special because an angel tells them they are; we are warned about this. If another angel gives any other doctrine…right? This is why we are to pray for discernment. The only thing that we can truly trust is the KJV Bible; God’s Word. If we rest our souls on every word in the Bible then we will be fine. Always go back to the Word of God to find the two witnesses and if they aren’t there then it is a lie. It is this sacred name movement that will create the falling away…this is what Jonathan is doing if you pay attention. We speak English; Jesus’ name is no other name than what the Bible tells us so why are people calling Him so many other names? They are calling on the false Christ.
Thank you for sharing your perspective Fran. Yes, we need to be leery when someone proclaims that an angel spoke to them, for the enemy dresses as an angel in light. As for the Falling Away of 2 Thessalonians 2, that happened in the fourth century when Emperor Constantine and the Roman Bishops created the Roman religion of Christianity which is based on the worship of Babylonian/Roman gods. http://christianitybeliefs.org/the-falling-away/
Just going to give a quick definition for those that want to lash out at David.
The actual expression “sons of God,” (“benei ha-elohim”), is Hebrew for sons of the God and is used in Genesis when describing Direct creations of God, Adam and the angels, including fallen ones. All other sons born from Adam were called sons of Adam.
Jonathan calls himself an benei ha-Elohim, okay, since it’s obvious that he is not Adam then there is only one other he could be. He is either a false prophet or a complete idiot. Either way we need to steer clear of him. Just him calling himself that causes him to loose any credibility in being a prophet.
Thank you David for your own gift of discernment and being willing to stand in your faith on the true word of God. God bless you.
being born-again we have become Children of God through His Grace and our Profession that the Man Christ Jesus IS, IN FACT, God Almighty come in the flesh..and knowing that we Repent, and do our best to live as such, Children of the Most High, As it IS Written, “Let God be True and Every Man a Liar”…Kleck can prophesy and not be a prophet, he is a mere messenger and claims
to be JUST THAT, a messenger, a vessel, and affirms the New Birth, Jesus Christ as dying for the Sins of all Mankind, that He IS God come
in Flesh, and that Jesus Christ IS The Only Way to the Father, so stop with your accusing, you remind me of someone in God’s Word…so get the facts straight or just Praise God, Rejoice, and Pray, Repent, and Read His Holy Word, if all you wish to do is to condemn, I rebuke you for your benefit..stop putting words in the mouth of other Brothers in Christ Jesus, if you feel so strongly then make a better argument, as I am very familiar with Kleck and he doesn’t need my defense, nor your accusations, but our prayers the same as you need prayers and I need prayers…he is a messenger on these particular subjects if you cannot see that then you cannot see that, that does NOT warrant your taking him out of context and clearly your statement is not of The Holy Spirit, as you would at the very least not go so far into judgment of a FALLIBLE MAN, “let God Be True and every man a liar!”
and a messenger is NOT a prophet but can prophesy still…that has Biblical proof, seek God in Prayer Faith Sincere Repentance and Humility, and then take a look at Joel 2:28…do what you will but as for Me, I follow Christ’s Laws, as He Is God in Flesh, so I do not do as I will, as that is of Satan, I do as God Will’s and I fall short daily, but my Faith that He is Faithful to Keep what I have committed to Him in Faith is sure as His Promise is Sure, Pure, and TRUE.
God Bless You, Brother in Christ and may His Holy Spirit Guide His Faithful into All Truth!
-a humble Saved sinner in Christ Jesus